well it was before my time and i have not been present to judge it all.

but:
he/they cheated and got punished (banned). if he wants to play again then let him. give him his old account(s) back? no!

would i personly trust a person with leadership that pulled something like that one time? surely not. but thats for everybody for themselves to decide.

Hey Alexander! long time no see my friend, time to go rouse Jelan .  As for the main topic, I have run in many squads with Styx, Karism, Neoxx, and the bunch.  Styx is knowledgeable about the game, and makes a great leader and FC.  If he was to return, it could bring some life back into the pvp of this game   just my 2 cents.  I vote yes for reinstatement.

I know the story, I have fought against him, we have tickled each others balls long enough. And yes it effected my game play, ruining  the perpetuum economic market with the insurance fraud, with echoing effects lasting up till today, as it never really recovered. The same goes for trying to fight someone on uneven stakes, with endless supplies, with you own hard earned robots.

Nevertheless, I have to admit, between all the virtual hate which was going on, it was my greatest joy in perpetuum so far, to fight gun to gun with great comrades, what is now known today as the "The Great NIA World War 22.05.2011 - 04.06.2011", with all the intrigues, spying, psy warfare and what not.  I have inside knowledge of the styx M2S Forum posts as well and the grudge he had against the dev´s, at the time.

I am not saying ban or unban him. All I am saying is, I had one of my greatest days in perpetuum, fighting probably one of the most challenging leader and warlord, we have seen in this game.

It is probably up to the devs as well, If they think, the game is hardened enough, to withstand future exploits, especially, with the "expected" high influx we would be getting on steam release. Saying that, styx might be a good counsellor to have at hand for the devs. If I remember right, it was one of his concerns in his letter in the internal M2S forums   Shoot me if I am wrong

Am I the only one who thinks shadow is full of ***?

I've read the Styx side of the story and I've seen the likely insurance kills on the KB. I doubt the impact was that significant. Killing bots for marginal insurance payout would take time and return what? Nic? This is a game of assets.

The idea that the balance is skewed to this day as some above hinted sounds preposterous. Many an exploiter has gone unpunished, yet when a person is also effective the hammer comes down.

We're about to witness the largest safe transfer of wealth this game has ever seen from ASSETS created through exploited missions, exploited beacons, and a broken turtle-island gamma.

It's a good thing the owners of all this wealth are completely delusional carebears with no potential to stand against even a modestly organized opponent, much less a real leader.

Those assets will likely rot in Alpha, or simply serve as carebear porn to get off on.

Not if it's the only thing you do in the game. That's what would get your accounts zero-ed. And, according to that first account, being one of the main buyers of alpha minerals is nothing if not significant (during that time).

But that isn't what happened here, or what's happening now. Stuff was duplicated through an exploit, accounts were permanently banned. That's what you agree on not to do before logging in for the first time. Fairly straightforward, and not really worth discussing.

Truth be told, while you guys were still playing, you did witness the largest safe transfer of wealth this game had ever seen. You just didn't do anything about it. But hey, the only reason we amassed this wealth over the last 2 years was because there was never a modestly organized opponent.

Everyone who CHOSE to play the game over the last 2 years knew of the changes occurring. No one side had knowledge the other did not. But clearly it's better to not play and then cry about others that continue to do so and advance in the game. You guys had momentum and were right on our doorstep, and might have done a lot of damage. Then you left. Your reasons have been explained. But the reality is you did not push your advantages. And the results should be expected. Keep crying.

Talk to me, Styx and Jita in TS, if Styx will be allowed to return to the battlefield.

Oh this is not the only thing Styx did. This is nothing that lead to his banning from the game. Oh if you could see the amount of assets that he hide from those of us that played the game with him.

Who let Styx down??

Afternoon Celebro, I got spammed with free account emails today so thought i'd have a nose around!