I am +1 for Increase number orders to 10, 50 and 100 per level of extensions.
-1 for decrease complexity - if you are dedicated trader, you shouldn't be able to be best at it after 20 days.

You do get a new one whenever you die.

Yeah, you are right. I made a thread about how lackluster light bots are in this game a while back.

Here is how fitting a beginner light bot looks in Perpetuum:
http://sequer.nl/app/fitting/753

Here is how fitting a beginner frigate looks in EVE:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/287 … ifter.html

There is really no comparison. Light bots are boring (and also innefective). If the newb can't afford to fit a T4 frame, he will barely even be able to keep up if he is with a group. Its no surprise to me player retention is so low with the starter bots as boring and ineffective as they are.

Remove the requirements for LWF on lights and assaults, not allowed to fit one, and buff the speed with a t4 frame, after all its mandatory.

+1 for the OP.

lo peeps.

I to am a 1 account player.

I was trolling the forums and saw a quote from a player that has a very good ability for stating the obvious. He stated something about the game being built for multi account players. and meta gaming, to paraphrase unjustly his statement.  ( i am to lazy to look it up).

The mechanics of this type of game is balanced for this type of game. O wow, so that means i will never be a leet player?   yes it does. The game is not made for me. It is made for me and my three other accounts. It is made for multi boxing, flying through the content faster then the devs can make it, getting bored, saying i have done everything, in one year, and i am going to go play something better. Or new, whichever you prefer. Or i get booted from open terrain by someone, and decide i have been ganked from the game...

Making gear available for newbies is noble, and desirable.  But the system itself wont let that happen.  If someone puts T2 light missile launchers on the market for 50k each...the buyer will be a mega corp player saving time and resources buying them to make T3 launchers, which will never see a market either. and then T4.  So stating the obvious hurts, sometimes, because i have seen this before, and watching a train wreck days before it happens is also painful. Right now the game is just running over newbies one at a time, later when the core leaves we wont have any replacement players. and,,,,,,uhh,,,,who's going to turn out the lights...?

One player can influence rookie gear T2 T3 , by placing small numbers on the sell board. Producers will still pick them up, but these producers might be rookies also, and not mega corp players. This means the angle who is putting rookie gear on the market, has to check his selling stocks daily to keep supply available. There are two other ways to have noob gear in the market, but i don't  think anyone is ready for these solutions.

1 is to flood the market with T2 and T3 items to the point that mega corps go broke buying them.
2 is to have a seeded market for T2 and T3 items, with a base price. This stops inflation. But if the seeded price is high,,,its as bad as player greed.

And why there is a limit to sell orders is beyond me. It is more then a ep sink,,,it is a anchor around this games neck.

Community is one of the top two content attractors for a game.....being a self proclaiming profit,,,,i stated before gamma was launched,,,,,long before gamma was launched......that it would kill community. and it has...alphas are empty. This game has to fix this,,,,,NOW... or its,,,,,,,over.

cheers...:)

I often entertain myself by saying "its not what i can do, but what i can't, that pisses me off." So a agenda driven spew of ideas that enhance "my game" experience is formed. Gads a year ago i decided to sell some loot, and i had one sell order available. Yeaaa i now have three. lol. Its ok.  I know a indy specific toon will have many more then three, and in just a month of playing.

The debate of balance between the uncontrollable number of toons 1 player can have, and controllable content the game provides each toon,,(cant be 1 player) has been decided in this game.  Two years from now i might click more market sell order extensions.  I like the trades and the division between them.

To be honest, i like the game, it is kinda like a payed beta test. With one toon i cant fly through the game like a cat with its arss on fire. I am tied to a ep diet that will have me playing for along time. O and a nic tree that sees me a cuppla bill behind also.

So how many players that had, have, did have, multi toons are gone for whatever reason do we know.  lots is all i can say.  Its endemic of this system. It allows one to go ludicrous speed, hit "the wall" and retire, take a break, quit. Players have to know that developers cannot create content as fast as players experience it.  The grind that sets in after reaching certain lvls is oppressive.  The saps is such a grind. it is a chore the game hands out that some are not willing to commit to.  My favorite fort capture mechanic is....The three pylon destruction method.  Shoot three pylons and the outpost is yours, and three more pylons generate.  Remainders of the defenders that are on the field can retake the outpost.  Only the owners can respawn at the outpost. This method had defenses, repulsers, turrets, AI.... also had mobile bases the attackers could use for a spawn sight, within howzer range. All this crap could be grinded out in a four hr period, by the clan, squad, corp. The cash, for bots, mobile base, for a two three hr fight every night of the week...

This game is not going to give me what i want, that's ok.  Shooting hero lights and assaults, with four machguns is still a blast. and the time flies by, even if the game crawls.

O yeah,,,i almost forgot,,,community.

Devs that enter the game in leet bots, with leet loot, that shoot everyone they see, anywhere, including, especially alpha...(no... mercy on noobs, but devs know vets, and they should shoot them on sight. Call them sentient could be a castel with three head slots, and three leg slots. with a sentient ct for the peep that shoots the dev. Notoriety, drama, and the desire to have vets running through alpha.  Every holiday, catch the easter bunny, shoot down santa, lol, and we cant leave out the turkey. Sents can have a sound when they are on a island, like whale sound. or coyote or drums, to warn players to take off their T4 stuff, or put on their T4 stuff...:)

Something that threatens a alpha island. That might fit into this game. AI driven, that rookies can handle, like a march of the elephants kinda thing, which some can compare to existing roams. But that camp players in terminals. Which one or two experienced players can break. I know, another anchor around our necks. But it is important for rookies to see other players.  And the game makes us do things we don't like now.  The biggest problem to this kind of mech, is there might not be anyone in the terminal. The mech could be tied to island population at the time of spawn.

Mini Outpost ownership,,,like alpha outposts. Limited control, but the need to flag to secure ownership of the outpost. Ownership could include the ability to use incubators that if attempted to harvest would flag the farmer...not keep him from harvesting, but flag him none the less. No docking restrictions, but the owner could be able to set the outpost perks, between those listed...The ability to friend or foe those that interject with the outpost, without corp controls.  friends would have the same perks as the owner, without joining a corp, the bond would be the outposts perks... This is a attempt to form new leaders, from a rookie population. One has the outpost and can hold it, players will use the outpost because it has a strong presence, and someone they can count on if there is trouble. Efficiency of the outpost could be tied to missions., could be tied to outpost needs, like recycled loot, low lvl decoders, resources within the influence of the outpost. Maybe even player numbers that are allied to that outpost. Production tied to mining harvesting, could enable contracts listed on the outposts sell and buy board, could be tied to player numbers allied to the outpost also....and ore and plant spawns....

And can we please have a bot parade complete with flags and banners, that moon everyone when they march by. 

time to go shoot a lvl one assault beacon....i wuv mechguns...:)

Nobody is buying because:
1) There is no demand for replacements since there's no good reason to risk losing a bot.
2) Its sooo expensive, not because of the price you are selling at but because of all the mats it needs.
3) Any serious producer is someone who has spent hours and hours grinding (or had a corp do it for them) and they don't need to buy a prototype, they make their own.

IMHO the market extensions should not limit how many buy or sell orders you can set up, but affect things like
- the "markets in range"-Range (currently its infinite)
- remote market access options
- unlock rates and price statistics
- ....

basicly, market extensions should not affect that you can use the market at all, but how convinient you can use it.

the number of buy/sell slots in a terminal could also be tied to your logistic corp standing in that terminal, instead of extension.

at your own gamma outpost you should have ZERO limitations regarding number of orders.

I think we should get some offices that we can walk around in gamma station, with sexy assistants and all that shizzle.

It would bring in more people. Some in station shooting with some cheap 3d engine shouldn't take long to add and would give us something to do.

any1 ever wondered as noob why its named "markets in range" ?

The extra market orders per extension level will be increased from 1/5/10 to 5/25/50 in the upcoming patch.

We did, those were the old values for the extentions. At some point the devs nerfed them to their current values.

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