OK, lots of good advise here so here's what I did: First off I'm apologizing to Perpetuum, I understand its not their fault,but when things go bad it bugs me trying to find out why, also, been going over all the advise here. Restarted Aero, then tried again, Peretuum went right in, go figure, then sat back to see what else I did, got a new download of drivers for my card, they were outdated.

The new drivers made my card run different, my screen res for my widescreen tv I'm using is 1900x1080 and at first it didn't fit the screen so i had to adjust it to fit in the settings, and was running some odd 1800xsomething, but with the new drivers, the screen runs great at the regular settings. Then went to compatibility just to see, there were two new things there that never were before, one said soothing about not running at maximum settings for high dp, my screen is 1080p so I checked that giving it the option, and that fixed it. Now I get updates and it goes right in and runs and I'll see about my other problems later. I have a antivirus and it works, Avast..and it catches stuff online almost every day. I also do the windows security scan to make sure, and have found no problems.