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Topic: Virtual island as F2P on steam

Since we are losing the trial experience, might be a good idea to give out the virtual island as separate client for players to try out the game.

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

It's really not meant for that. It would need a lot more content to work as a demo.

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Terrible.

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

well pay to play games usually dont have free trials because that is one of your basic income

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

Should have a free start.

people are going to look the other way for 30$

That is not the point of F2P model.  The point is to get people in and then hook them with fun and stuff.  Then, they pay for a few things here and there.

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

I don't think 30 bucks is too much if someone enjoys the game but to be able to make that judgement, one needs to have a chance to try the game out for free. Not sure if the devs will keep trials around but I personally never shell out any cash upfront for an MMO without first running a trial. Doubt I'm the only one, those games without trials are missing out.

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

Yeah that is more what I meant.

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I don't think 30 bucks is too much if someone enjoys the game but to be able to make that judgement, one needs to have a chance to try the game out for free. Not sure if the devs will keep trials around but I personally never shell out any cash upfront for an MMO without first running a trial. Doubt I'm the only one, those games without trials are missing out.

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Gunner wrote:

Yeah that is more what I meant.

Burial wrote:

I don't think 30 bucks is too much if someone enjoys the game but to be able to make that judgement, one needs to have a chance to try the game out for free. Not sure if the devs will keep trials around but I personally never shell out any cash upfront for an MMO without first running a trial. Doubt I'm the only one, those games without trials are missing out.

On the other hand, there's a bunch of videos available on Youtube of people trying/playing the game.

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I think a demo / Trial / test drive of some kind is a must have for any game ... even if its only limited to something like 3 days ... the game should still have some free test for perspective players.

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Gunner wrote:

Yeah that is more what I meant.

Burial wrote:

I don't think 30 bucks is too much if someone enjoys the game but to be able to make that judgement, one needs to have a chance to try the game out for free. Not sure if the devs will keep trials around but I personally never shell out any cash upfront for an MMO without first running a trial. Doubt I'm the only one, those games without trials are missing out.

On the other hand, there's a bunch of videos available on Youtube of people trying/playing the game.


If I would have only seen videos and not the chance to play Perpetuum before I paid for it I would never have started in the first place. Same for eve.

Sandbox game fights (not to mention production and storages) look very very boring to me, while I enjoy them a LOT when I play in person. I personally would never pay 30$ up front for an MMO without having a trial anymore.

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I just don't get why the trial was removed unless the debs are worried that more people will try the trial and not like it than will buy the game and not like it.

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Asking people for 30$ for a game they're not sure if they're even gonna enjoy is just idiotic. The trial wasn't the problem, it was the utter lack of advertising and shoddy mismanagement that creates the problems.

Example:

Certain Players: "Hey dudes this terraforming stuff is like, so bad, theres gonna be walls around teleports and sh*t"
Certain Hungarians: "No not really, we're smarter then you"

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2 weeks later
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Certain Hungarians: "We're moving the no-build zone to 2k because turrets around teleports that close isn't how we wanted it to be"
Certain Players: "No *** sherlock told you so"

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2 years later
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Certain Hungarians: "We're resetting Gamma and we're going to redesign the terraforming mechanic because its too exploitable and we didn't think there would be walls around teleports"
Certain Players: "Aha. Tell me more please about this amazing spiritual journey you've been on."

lol

Nah but funny facts aside, if theres any way to give players a way to try out the game before they buy, LET THEM. Hell, go out with a 25% discount just to get the first 2-3k people so there's enough elbows bumping to create content. Oh and give them the option to pay 3 subs then go F2P or just lump-sum 30$ and be F2P from the get-go. Options, options. Shovel in everyone, the grandads and the beastmodes with their lunchbox money.

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

Need free experience for new players somehow!

(Expect your strategy exactly was that, not allow too much people at once.)

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I suspect that now the game is delivered via steam that Perpetuum will follow Steams promotions so expect £5.99 weekends etc, which will fullfil the same thing as a trial period etc.

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72 Hours free experience


Must have


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Gunner wrote:

72 Hours free experience


Must have


go go go

probably the best idea ^^

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Hey, just make a small area with nice vids and stuff, and implement it like a single-player lil game. Some small interesting storyline, ability to try a thing or two, and I forgot what I was going to say but think you've understood my point.

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Re: Virtual island as F2P on steam

I predicted the removal of subs but I never expected $30 for an early access game. It still good value for those that know what to expect and like the game, but how could the ones that have not tried yet know?

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