"I quote you how you quote me how you whine"
"no I quoted you because you didnt read original post"
"but you didnt because the Pi of Square Nobody Cares is not equivalent to root square of what the f***"

When I played EVE, the first vet player I came across let me in on CCP's policy and that knowledge kept me playing despite many stupidities and inconsistencies that wasted my time.

HTFU. Harden The F*** Up.

Pretty much why CCP still has my money coming in to pay for their earthly habits.

and I think it will be a bit early for at least a couple of months.

Lets all HTFU and play a game where stupidity and inconsistency rules! At fundamental gameplay.

P.S. for how long you´re back this time?

Eve bull**it quote.

which would make you only run into the biggest ore deposits all the time, and then the fragmentation logically becomes even worse, when you ignore the smaller spawns or leftovers from someone else, always going for the biggest one.

The problem is, a geoscanner with directional charges doesnt search for "fields", it doesnt even know what a field is. It simply tracks the nearest tile, regardles of the ore amount in it or surrounding it. Further, I can hardly imagine, how scanning could be a real profession, as you can never be sure, that you are the only person paying (or knowing) for/of scan results you buy. Even if you were, it can be so fastpaced, that after a hour the field could look completely different and your accuired scan results are inaccurate. On the other site, if you cant sell your scan data immediately, in a couple of hours its just worthless. At least with current mechanics.

Whole day corp mining on Hershefield, no problems at all: dig all --> move to next field --> dig all --> be happy.

You'll get your problem when the population will grow up.

damn, you are so smart! How could I ever figure out how it works, if you were not here to teach?

Do you know how to use a broom? Why dont you sweep streets then? Everyone would benefit of it

This would work except first time miners/casual miners won't have 100%+ scan accuracy and therefore cannot be expected to mine the whole field perfectly

Keep in mind too, "fragmented" means something different to a termis miner, a riveler miner, and a 10 man Riv MK II Fleet.

Simply, on alpha, the smaller fields (after the patch, the total 'yeild' per field is smaller for high % miners) are quickly stripped by large scale operations, which typically won't leave any tiles, simply because they too want another field to spawn (and OCD kicks in).

But, large fleets are more likely to roll out to 'remote' fields, as Khader points out, so what were really talking about here is solo miners with limited time, finding it difficult to access 'good' fields near the outpost. As an example, the bowl near Tellesis was always a favorite, as it has all the ores and was close to the outpost. This type of 'instant on' mining is now certainly gone.

On the top end, not much of a change. On the bottom end, the mined volumes are low enough that they can 'fill up' on just a handful of tiles, so where the problem seems to lie is with the 'middle class' miners, and for solo miners. On further thought, it has very little to do with fragmentation, which I believe will still be an issue on alpha (just not immediate) and more to do with mining being much less convient.