After last patch walls became worthless nicsink.
I request revert patch as soon as possible due to risk of having useless content if you want to keep current mechanics of walls as content to fill gameworld with 1x1 wallbricks.
If you have problems with amount of placed walls i would like to propose adjust prices for walls

or

replace walls with laser fence http://warby.bitproll.de/projects/0037_ … wer_01.jpg : Despite how long your wall, to broke it you need to destroy less number of connectors.

You missed the part where the others bomb and ddos your connection now and then, and then you have to buy a new package anyway

Decay still has not address the issue of 95 tiles per 21x21.

With shorter walls, and trying to use less tiles, because of the upkeep (your new mechanic), walls will now be more easily griefed.

Using walls to make a choke point, means your enemy can now come in and place down just a few walls to block it off completely.

Please fix the griefing issue with another patch, or should we just wait 28 days until it expires to walk out?

Jasdemi im impressed of how bad u are at trolling even with all the practice u got

The conversation has moved on to wall griefing Lupus, keep up.

Blah. I'm feeling really snarky, I should probably not post anything as I doubt it would be constructive.

I would like all of the NIC returned from the recent wall testing that was done. I say testing because when the walls were deployed they were advertised as permanent features that we as players could purchase and deploy out to the terrain. Now they are not permanent or persistent as they will destroy themselves after a short period of time. I can assure you if the “Defensive Wall Unit” was released as not persistent then I would have not purchased a single one as there would be no point in deploying them. I have spent hours upon hours designing and deploying these items, hours that are now gone because of the changes made to make these items degrade.   

And I quote
“
Defensive walls===
The first herald of persistent player-built structures is here! Defensive wall units can be deployed from your cargo onto the ground (beta islands only), and with time they will grow into full-fledged sturdy walls, mainly used for territorial defense.

A special wall compiler module is also available, to speed up the relatively slow "natural" growth of walls - if you have the NIC to spend on the required charges. There are some special rules for building walls too: 1 wall unit can have up to 3 neighbouring walls (diagonal doesn't count), and an area of 21 by 21 tiles can only contain a maximum of 95 wall units. Ah, the mysteries of Hungarian maths. 
“
I ask and urge you to refund all purchases made for:

Defensive Wall Unit
Wall Compiler Charges
Standard wall compiler module

As it stands without refunding the NIC spent on these items you are essentially deleting my NIC from the game without me even having a choice about it.

If I had the choice to deploy walls knowing they would degrade overtime then I would not have anything to complain about. But you told me at the time of purchase [one week ago] these items would last FOREVER unless destroyed by another player.

I can deal with people shooting and bombing my walls that’s expected. I can deal with the change. I cannot deal with and will not deal with being misled and tricked by developers.

I'm not one to say "I told you so..." but it was fairly obvious it was a mechanic that was going to be abused. So it's not really surprising the worst offenders are whining so much.  However I'm sure once they get over that they'll agree walls were and actually still are a broken mechanic implemented by a selection of devs and definately not alf

1) Semantics discussion has already been done, walls are still 'persistent'

2) Explain to me why walls can no longer be used for territory defence?

3) @Tux. Why shouldn't every game mechanic change / fix be refunded then? If my bots stats change and I don't like it, can I get a refund on the NIC and EP I spent to use it?

Lot's of QQ'ing and "I wantz mys moneyz backz"  going on here.  Having personally spent around 100 mil on walls, and replacement walls, and ammo to grow them, and ammunition to blow them up, perhaps I too should be complaining about the use of the word "persistant" and demanding return of my NIC.

Then again, maybe not.

Persistant does not mean immortal.  Walls can be blown up, does that negate the use of the word "persistant"?

Well, damn son, I built this wall and it's not here anymore, someone blew it up and I have to build another! That's not persistant!

And what happens in that case?  You build a replacement, and when it gets blown up again, you build another, rinse and repeat.  Walls grow by themselves, if you do not use the charges to grow them, and I am assuming that the growth rate is the same as the decay rate.  21 days from flat tile to full heigth wall, and 21 days from full height wall to dirt, assuming the average of 4hp per 8 hours.

When you build a house are you done?  Having been a home owner, I know that is anything but the case. There is always something you have to do, maintenance you have to perform, things that have to be replaced, and the occasional broken something, or a tree falls on your garage during a storm.  There is upkeep to keep your home in good shape.

The fact remains that walls, as they were, are unbalanced as hell.  Instead of playing around with them and figuring out the issues and what would happen to game play, many went hog *** wild with them.  And anyone who bothered to think about it objectively could have seen a mile away that some change was going to happen with them, especially if they were abused.  Now you have to be willing to maintain them, and lets be honest people, if you had been reasonable in their deployment, this would not be an issue.  Short sightedness will always end up with it's price.

PS- Walls are not a replacement to that which truly defends territory, an armed force effective enough to defend itself.  Unfortuneately, many resorted to walls as their main defense because they were not able to effectively defend themselves with firepower or scouting out hostiles to keep assets in the field safe.

BETA = RISK, that is what justifies the rewards.  Instead, you want the rewards with little to no risk. For such, stay on alpha, it's where you belong if you want no risk.

Don't feel bad, makes me feel dirty too, and I am in the same corp as him...