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Topic: Mesmer Accumulator

Hallo meine lieben DEVs,

don't you think the accumulator performance of Mesmer is a little weird?
I did some math and here's the result:

Kain AP/s = 2300AP/420s = 5.476 AP/s
Mesmer AP/s = 4125/720 = 5.729 AP/s

So, Mesmer get only 0,253AP/s (+4.62%) more than a Kain, but has to use 2 additional EM-guns.
Only 4.62% more accu for a bot which is 10x more expensive?

Don't you guys think something is wrong? The Nuimqol Union Engineering Team could've done better than this. No?

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Re: Mesmer Accumulator

Get an accu recharger maybe?

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hallo jasdemi,

see, the mesmer has almost twice the buffer of the kain, a good bunch more hitpoints, and a good bunch more slots to fit supporting modules.

like the Mesmer is still an incredible ERP Tank.

not to mention, that all heavy mechs had a worse recharge rate then the mechs.

its working as intended

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... The mesmer is a what ERP? lol

Forget ERP, Armor Repair Tunings aren't worth the space to fit them. smile

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Re: Mesmer Accumulator

Jasdemi wrote:

Hallo meine lieben DEVs,

don't you think the accumulator performance of Mesmer is a little weird?
I did some math and here's the result:

Kain AP/s = 2300AP/420s = 5.476 AP/s
Mesmer AP/s = 4125/720 = 5.729 AP/s

So, Mesmer get only 0,253AP/s (+4.62%) more than a Kain, but has to use 2 additional EM-guns.
Only 4.62% more accu for a bot which is 10x more expensive?

Don't you guys think something is wrong? The Nuimqol Union Engineering Team could've done better than this. No?

Your topic is doomed to failure. This has been discussed and concluded that Mesmer's in the game do not need.

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Hunter wrote:
Jasdemi wrote:

Hallo meine lieben DEVs,

don't you think the accumulator performance of Mesmer is a little weird?
I did some math and here's the result:

Kain AP/s = 2300AP/420s = 5.476 AP/s
Mesmer AP/s = 4125/720 = 5.729 AP/s

So, Mesmer get only 0,253AP/s (+4.62%) more than a Kain, but has to use 2 additional EM-guns.
Only 4.62% more accu for a bot which is 10x more expensive?

Don't you guys think something is wrong? The Nuimqol Union Engineering Team could've done better than this. No?

Your topic is doomed to failure. This has been discussed and concluded that Mesmer's in the game do not need.

Don't cry about *** HMs in my thread!

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Jasdemi wrote:
Hunter wrote:

Your topic is doomed to failure. This has been discussed and concluded that Mesmer's in the game do not need.

Don't cry about *** HMs in my thread!

I do not need. You're doing fine here. I came to eat popcorn and laugh.

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Hunter wrote:
Jasdemi wrote:
Hunter wrote:

Your topic is doomed to failure. This has been discussed and concluded that Mesmer's in the game do not need.

Don't cry about *** HMs in my thread!

I do not need. You're doing fine here. I came to eat popcorn and laugh.

You gave up crying about how bad HMs are already? Son, I'm disappoint.

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Ok, Let's try calculate:
Max Accumulator capacity (without accumulators):
basic * (1 + (spec. ops. robot control + 3 * Accumulator expansion) / 100)
With max skills:
Kain = 2300 * (1 + (10 + 30)/100) = 3220 AP
Mesmer = 4125 * 1,4 = 5775 AP

Min accumulator recharge time (without accumulator recharges):
basic - basic / 100 * Energy management * 3

Kain = 420 - 420 / 100 * 10 * 3 = 420 - 420 / 100 * 30 = 420 - 126 = 294 sec
Mesmer = 720 - 720 / 100 * 10 * 3 = 720 - 720 / 100 * 30 = 720 - 216 = 504 sec

ok, now we can calculate AP/sec:
Accumulator capacity / recharge time * 2
Kain = 3220 AP / 294 sec * 2 = 21,9 AP/sec
Mesmer = 5775 AP / 504 sec * 2 = 22,91 AP/sec

Now when we have more accurate data, you can start a discussion.

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Jasdemi wrote:
Hunter wrote:
Jasdemi wrote:

Don't cry about *** HMs in my thread!

I do not need. You're doing fine here. I came to eat popcorn and laugh.

You gave up crying about how bad HMs are already? Son, I'm disappoint.

Seems that you do not understand something in this life. You're accustomed to defend only your own benefit. My interests are fine. I can afford the luxury of caring about the global balance.

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For proportionality is enough to add a bonus of advanced robotics (+5% per level) for the Mesmers.

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Thanks for the info hunter. I guess HM are still pretty darn good wink

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Celebro wrote:

Thanks for the info hunter. I guess HM are still pretty darn good wink

Actually yes.

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Re: Mesmer Accumulator

Hunter wrote:

Kain = 3220 AP / 294 sec * 2 = 21,9 AP/sec
Mesmer = 5775 AP / 504 sec * 2 = 22,91 AP/sec
Now when we have more accurate data, you can start a discussion.

22,91*100/21,9-100 = 4,61%

It's still the same. I still can't believe we only get 4,61% more accumulator performance for a 10x more expensive heavy mech.

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Jasdemi wrote:
Hunter wrote:

Kain = 3220 AP / 294 sec * 2 = 21,9 AP/sec
Mesmer = 5775 AP / 504 sec * 2 = 22,91 AP/sec
Now when we have more accurate data, you can start a discussion.

22,91*100/21,9-100 = 4,61%

It's still the same. I still can't believe we only get 4,61% more accumulator performance for a 10x more expensive heavy mech.


Heavy mechs shines when you have higher EP added to advanced robotics and other stuff, those with low EP should stick to the mech class.Accumulator performance is not the only thing u need to campare. You still get 2 more guns fitted and more leg and head slots to improve accumulator. Fail thread

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Celebro wrote:
Jasdemi wrote:
Hunter wrote:

Kain = 3220 AP / 294 sec * 2 = 21,9 AP/sec
Mesmer = 5775 AP / 504 sec * 2 = 22,91 AP/sec
Now when we have more accurate data, you can start a discussion.

22,91*100/21,9-100 = 4,61%

It's still the same. I still can't believe we only get 4,61% more accumulator performance for a 10x more expensive heavy mech.


Heavy mechs shines when you have higher EP added to advanced robotics and other stuff, those with low EP should stick to the mech class.Accumulator performance is not the only thing u need to campare. You still get 2 more guns fitted and more leg and head slots to improve accumulator. Fail thread

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Nowaid I'll allow other factions HM get buffed, so I'm just gonna spam "fail thread" like a pathetic 12 years fanboy.