I'd like to see trial accounts able to buy off of the market but not sell or trade.

Make it so.

Trial accounts farm NIC, buy Items from 'parent' account/s, trial NIC now flows into player economy.

There's no reason to go part way, either the trial accounts are restricted, or they are fully open. Any thing less just defeats the purpose of the restrictions in the first place.

If there are suddenly 100's of new trial accounts daily, the dev's know there's something going on, but there's no way to know which of those accounts are really new interested players and which are making mischeif. Every second they have to spend weeding them out is seconds less to build our new Islands.

You either give full access or none, it makes no sense otherwise.

Arga Wrote:

It sounds like the trial has done what it was supposed to do, from the way you describe the game components, it sounds like you have alot of experience with this type of game, so you didn't need the whole 15 days.

I Say:

Yes I have had a bit of experience with this sort of game, eg: Eve, Mechwarrior series, and a host of other mmo's. I would not purchase something without knowing what i am getting, thats just wrong no matter the price.

People, just because it is the internet does not change the principle. You wouldn't buy a car without checking it out first... would you?

There are many many more mmo's I have played and in my experience many of them are documented much better than Perpetuum. It is hard to find information on Perpetuum. This game on the surface says it has what I want in a game but there is no way to tell for real without trying it out. That is what a trial is for...in my experience!

By Limiting the trials as i mentioned in my initial post it defeats the purpose intended in that it does not allow potential customers from making an informed decission about a product they have an interest in purchasing!

This game pushes quite heavily on corporation reliance and not freelance play, now you by no means need a corp and you can freelance, but without a corp your puchasing and manufacturing potential is heavily limited, it would be hard to purchase the best Mechs and Armaments, you could not seriously do any commercial manufacturing or R&D. So the limits should be focused on transaction with corps and joining a corps. That would be enough.

A new player would want to:
1. Explorer the environment(world of Perpetuum).
2. Mine and harvest with the outlook of manufacturing some goods and selling them for profit. (This would allow someone to decied if they want that sort of ingame career)
3. Harvest PVE loot drops, with the outlook of reverse engineering them to make blueprints for the above point
4. Getting into the biggest darn mech they can so they can PVP in some modicum or sense of style.

So for points 2,3,4 to bad so sad you have to pay to play. So much for the trial.

Arga Wrote:

Other players new to the sandbox genre may take most of the 2 weeks to understand Reverse engineeing, gathering, and combat to determine if this is the type of game they want to play, which is why the trial is that long; its 'sized' for the new player

I Say:

Read my first post... I state that you can not reverse engineer! Why gather resources (step 1 of a multi stage process) if there is no outcome or fruit to your endeavours?

Arga Wrote:

If there are suddenly 100's of new trial accounts daily, the dev's know there's something going on, but there's no way to know which of those accounts are really new interested players and which are making mischeif. Every second they have to spend weeding them out is seconds less to build our new Islands.

Trial accounts farm NIC, buy Items from 'parent' account/s, trial NIC now flows into player economy.

I Say:

On the naughty mischief making troublemakers: You have got to be kidding me right? So the Dev's really that concerned that out of the hundreds of actual customers they get that 1 or 2 of that hundred MAY have malicious intentions.... Wow Mr X has started a trial account so he can rake in the big bucks and trade everything to his Mr Y account! That is seriously lame for a game that is setup for dual boxing and multi accounts.

Arga Wrote:

I'm sure you've read the other posts in the trial forum about this subject, so I'm not going to repeat why the restrictions are there. (there's only a few threads, so if you didn't read them, i would highly suggest you do so).

I Say:

Out of the 10 post in this forum please post me a link where the trial account restrictions are outline....please.

Here is a thought about restricting the trial accounts.

Make all features available but cap Extensions.

eg: You need Basic Robotics 4 and Thelodica Robot Control 4 to use an Assualt Mech. If the Advanced Robotics is caped at 1 you would be able to pilot a Mech but if it is locked on a trial account you would be unable to pilot anything bigger than an Assault Mech.

This works with all Piloting Extensions and Weapon Extension and limits the development of industrial and corporation extensions.

If game Developers feel they need to so heavily restrict game content at such an early stage, basicly from the outset in a trial, and the content that is being restricted are major game elements, then it would lead me in my opinion to believe that the game itself lacks any real depth of content. I would expect that a game like this to have more content than say old DOS games like Elite.

Sure I understand that developers need to put money in their pockets but a game needs to showcase what you can do, what it offers, give you a taste of the forbidden fruit so you want more not to uninstall.

I want to say to friends catch you online later we're gonna harvest a ton of ore and need haulers and some muscle to cover us. I don't want to say to my friends tried the trial of Perpetuum what a bummer, come over and we'll drink beer and play Mechwarrior on the big screen. :Dlol

Good attempt at an obvious troll -- but it does make sense....

Farmers can't sell their wares on a trial account or trade. Who cares if noobies that may quit the game push money into the economy. A buyer is a buyer and we need more activity in the economy.

They could bot and farm until their eyes go red, and buy all sorts of ***, but they won't be able to do anything with their accumulated mass of items off the market (except use it themselves for 15 days) until they pay for an account...

I actually agree that allowing trial players to *buy* from player sell orders but not put up their own sell orders could work. It would give trial account players more things to do without allowing anyone else to exploit the trial.

We can degrade this discussion to the "really!?, really!?" state easily enough.

Really, your going to compare buying a $25,000 car to paying $10 for 30 days of access to a game!?

1+2+3 : calid
4: get over it, there needs to be some kind of grind

additonal - you get 15 days for free

even if you subscribe and activate your account after 1 day -
- youre trial restriction will be lifted in an instant
- your gameaccess will be extended by 30 days
- means you had 1 day trial, and 44 days for the price of 30 days

What really sucks for you, is that prior to the open trial and the facebook promotions the trial accounts were totally unrestricted because the codes were either directly requested from devs on the forums or came from already registered players who get a trial code with a registered account.

If you had gotten one of those codes you'd have been unrestricted from day 1.

I personally just bought an account outright ($24/3 mos) because there was no box price, i like supporting indie devs, and the monthly fees are lower than most and never was in a trial, but I used the code I got to register a 2nd account, and then the code from that one to register a 3rd, and was never restricted at all.