On the subject of anyone going to contested islands for profit . . .

Many Nians may not be aware that every Beta Outpost regularly (every 6-16 hours?) has an intrusion event, whether anyone shows up or not.

At the conclusion of the event (60 min), a reward is dropped in the form of a field can with contents worth 7 - 30 mill nic in : beacons, cortexes, epriton, decoders etc.

A new player with a small fast bot has the potential to scoop this can, uncontested, and return to Alpha to sell your prizes; almost guaranteed sales in the millions, possibly tens of millions

In all honesty, it seems the only benefit of Beta is these intrusion event loot drops. Almost everything else, as Syndic said, can be found safely on Alpha

I'm amazed beta isnt crawling with fast mover lights and assaults just waiting to pounce on these. Its like a leperachaun dropping a pot of gold, twice per day, per outpost with no strings attached; and many times, after 15 minutes, the loot can just pops with no master to claim it.

On the subject of epriton mining with gamma it has become absurd how safe and easy it is. Anyone doing it on beta is pants on head ***.

Phalanx I applaud this post.  Hydra's leadership is clearly stating its all about profit and not about epeen.  Maybe this inspires more corps to become more actively engaging in sap warfare.  Kudos and respect to Hydra.

are you telling that the regrow threshhold for epriton should be lowered, so a new field doesnt spawn before you have cleared almost the whole island?

As I said at the beginning of the gamma expansion epriton shouldn't be on gamma. Add to that the removal of infinite spawns and the removal of corp markets and you might have an economy worth having.

What Phalanx means despite a killboard that shows horrendous losses, they don't just fight for killboard stats. They will take great losses if they achieve their objective. For a new(er) corp willing to sacrifice this is commendable.

PHM should probably put out the same message.

I know how to exploit this

--I believe a fair portion of pvp in game has no physical or intangible gains as an objective. Its just for the lulz.

examples:

• --A group of buddies goes out on a "roam" with the intent of killing no one in particular.

• --flagging up outside an alpha terminal

--Unless you consider this training, I would say these are not Objective Based PvP situations.
--I admit though, looking for instances of PvP with no reward is hard to find.
--Rewards could be things like: corp honor, personal fame, power projection, training, dead enemy loot etc

I guess in general I need to rephrase my definition. Thanks for the input Celebro.

Your honestly right in saying this.  PHM inner crew thats active nowadays averages below 300K EP.  Not to say there aren't any veterans in the corp, but the active 4 to 5 guys excluding myself have less the 6 monthes in game.  They are learning and having fun thats the important part.  With the ability to sustain Gamma living and being able to mine epriton within docking range of the station, and being communist PHM is not about the spoils.  However there is about 500 nora plants that pay the subs for about 15 accounts.

Too much land for too few players.