Topic: Running 3 accounts

I just wanted to get some of the more experienced players' thoughts on how you would set up 3 accounts to make Nic.  Not just in the immediate short term, but also thinking about the long term involvement with the game.

Currently I have a combat char, and a miner char.  Both still have respecs available.  I want 1 character to be combat, other two open for discussion.

  So far I have had these ideas thrown out at me.

1. Combat, Miner, Manufacturer

2. Combat, Miner, Miner

3.  Combat, Combat, Manufacturer (this would be to farm NPCs for Kernals and such, while buying Ore for the manufacturer)

How would you more experienced players encourage a good friend to get started for making Nic with three accounts, while having one of them be a combat char?  I also at this point do not have easy access to mining Epitron either, and I also think that the current price of Epitron will drop over time as more and more people mine it.

Thanks

2 (edited by Alexander 2011-08-03 03:36:01)

Re: Running 3 accounts

1 Heavy Mech.
1 Support character.
1 Hauler.

Walk into best alpha spawn.
Kill stuff.
?????
Profit.

So one combat character, one support character with RR, Nexus and remote amps and a hauler/miner. Your support character can be your hauler when mining and the combat character could be scouting if the location is risky or you want to make a little more NIC by farming near your mining location.

Two characters is enough however as it's mainly attributes that are important if you spend EP wisely over the next 6 months.

Re: Running 3 accounts

Combat characters can also mine. The main mining skill is Adv Robotics (10% mining bonus per level) which fighters have

2 Combat plus manufacturer/Hauler would be good

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I think Combat, other color combat/hauler and miner/manu (or just miner) is a good idea.

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yea its kinda difficult to tell what would be the most profitable ventures out there, at this early stage of the game. certainly mining will be the most reliable.

Missions themselves dont seem like they would be amazing at money making,  more of a relations increasing mechanic and a way to get the mission ammo.

With combat you can obviously farm away..  but then it comes down to what will you do with the loot to maximise your profits?  Recycle, maybe sell stuff?  That would mean upping some other skills.

So maybe a combat mech for farming, a miner, and the third a hauler / recycler / marketeer.   Possibly having the miner have some basic production skills?

But remember that any character using a station factory or facility needs to have his standings up, so you'll probably need each character doing some missions.

I suspect the best way would be to focus purly on combat, with a supporting hauling / recycling / selling character,  or focusing purly on mining!  Miner, Harvester, producer/hauler

Re: Running 3 accounts

i play 3 acounts myslef, i would make the following setup now:
- A) fighter, but still have to choose from pure fighter, ew, nexus, ,depending on playerstyle and preferences.
- B) industrial that i would mainlly have docked; with market and refining extensions (or alts), research and production. The character with the industrial and refining extensions should grind relations.
- C) miner/harvester, pvp/pve support
I made recycler, marketeer, and refiner the C) acount althou im pretty sure i could have concentrated some more roles on the B) acount wich atm its producer and miner.

Re: Running 3 accounts

THanks everyone for the help!

Couple of questions:

1.  If i go a pure manufacturer char. does most of his EP go into those skills then and not other stuff like mining?  I would assume like any specialization, the EP consumption gets large quick? or no?

2.  In Alexander's post he mentions RR, what is RR, and was he being a little sarcastic or helpful with his ???. win?

3.  And what is a marketeer? Obviously someone who does market, but why would I need specializaation in market? 

4.  Anyone else have any ideas?

Thanks again, I didn't play Eve and am a noob here so I appreciate it.

Re: Running 3 accounts

1. Full combat with focus on Mech/Hmech for farming take indy bots to 4 for sequer
2. Miner/indy... Mining first get in to rivler and get stable before worrying about indy.
3. Alt Miner/ Light bot E-war specialist/ support... Depending on your idea of fun I would tailor this toon to fit the situation you enjoy the most.
a. Mining... Get this toon in to a Termis then train up Nexus's ((fast extractor & indy)
b. Plasma/kernal farming... Termis again but focus on energy transfer and RR (remote rep) and other Nexus Crit/Assault/Speed/farlock
c. PVP alt Ewar specialist... Specialists are a thorn in the side of the enemy if coupled with a good dps/tank friend.
Just my 2 cents Indy is something that can be done by your miner as he/she develops your not gonna come straight in to the game with 2 months of EP and mass produce 8 lines of 8 cycles of any thing. Sorry it will take time and MATS MATS and MATS. Having your mining toon do indy things as they progress in their mining skills makes sense. At least to me it does.

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9 (edited by TokTok 2011-08-03 21:17:11)

Re: Running 3 accounts

I run 4 accounts with the following setup

Combat,Combat, Miner/Refiner, Prototyper/Manunfacture

both industrial accouns can piolet Sequers so i can use the prototyper to go out and get the roe while im mining with my termis, while one of the combat accounts guards the other two.

other times i take both combat accounts out.

Also RR is remote repairer

Re: Running 3 accounts

I run 3 accounts.

1 Combat (can pilot all thelodica bots except Seth mk2). Main money making bots are the baphomet mk2 and seth.

1 miner (riveler mk2) with 210% in all ores

1 Production (minor amounts of ep spent in nexus)

I would reccommend a similar setup, I really enjoy this and can take part in just about every aspect of the game, from mining to combat to pvp to making things. My miner is the most consistent money maker, but im sure really well skilled producers who sell on the market can beat my returns in less time played. My combat character killing light bots can on some spawns outpace my miner, but it's a little more risky, and I've been doing it with nearly the same amount of nic invested in bots (t4 fit riveler mk2 + t4 nexus fitted sequer vs t4 fit baphomet mk2 (or sometimes seth)+ t4 fitted lithus), although I just got a lithus mk2 so that's probaly a little more expensive now.

You can fit out a miner character to do RR (remote rep) pretty easy with just a few days worth of skill points to help you combat toon, and you can get your combat toon into a sequer to help out your miner with hauling (same with production toon), and experience just about everything the game has to offer. If you go with a production toon, you'll be able to feed kernels and things to recycle, plus the ores to refine and you're only limited by what you can make by what you know (or can aquire prototypes for).

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My current 3 account setup is:

Combat,industry,miner.

All accounts can use sequer, industry account can use termis and mining account Rivler.

Industry is focused on manufacturing, recycling and research
Mining is focused on Mining, refining and eventually prototyping

For Pve'ing combat in what ever bot is suitable, industry in sequer / termis (depends on support or hauling) while the miner is off sucking down ore into a field can.

For mining industry in termis and miner in rivler with the combat char hauling.

For PVP (not current but planned) Combat dps with industry running support rivler.

Yes there is a *lot* of duplicated extensions across industry and mining (support and bot fitting) but I find this way allows me to maximise my character usage without having to split my attention to far.

Re: Running 3 accounts

Tailn wrote:

Yes there is a *lot* of duplicated extensions across industry and mining (support and bot fitting) but I find this way allows me to maximise my character usage without having to split my attention to far.

I would characterize an "Indy" character as any non-combat role, not as a production character.

Really there are no over-lapping extensions between a dedicated production and a miner/support. For producer you want to put all of your EP into the "Industrial tab". There's nothing in there that relates to robot extensions at all.

What your more talking about is the cross-over between being combat support and mining, which I agree has a lot of extensions in common.

For players looking to run 3 accounts to cover the manufacturing vertical you only need 2 dedicated characters and you can cross-train the third to support the other 2.

Alex's setup is for farming npc's, which is also a great way to make NIC. For the vertical though, you have to have a dedicated manufactor at the top and a dedicated miner at the bottom. The only real issue I have with this is that covering the vertical isn't really the best way to play the game solo. Given enough time, any single dedicated character is going to be able to generate a very large income for you, splitting EP will only delay that income.

Re: Running 3 accounts

Tailn wrote:

My current 3 account setup is:

Industry is focused on manufacturing, recycling and research
Mining is focused on Mining, refining and eventually prototyping

Um not sure if you know but "research" directly relates to eating kernels which directly relates to Prototyping.... Just saying if your indy"producer has EP in research and your Miner has EP in Prototyping your wasting EP on one or the other.

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Re: Running 3 accounts

So Arga, what set up would you recommend then?

Thanks to all as well!

ANyone else feel free to add also.

Re: Running 3 accounts

Great advice here.....I've got 3 accounts subbed also.  Just can't get them to run at the same time without crashes happening.

Re: Running 3 accounts

Ed- Keeping the game interesting to you is more important then specific setups, but since you asked how I would do it smile

First off, being in a small corp is much better then going solo. Other then the social aspects, there's limits to what 1 person can do, even with multiple accounts. If your in a corp where most players have multiple accounts, that's a bonus too!

It really all boils down to how much play time you have and how much multi-tasking you can do. And how effcient you want to be with your characters.

If you just want the flexability to go out and do different parts of the game, then Miner/Harvester, Combat/PVP, and Production/Marketer are the ways to go. Dedicated, you'll be very good at each of these parts of the game as your charaters progress and have fun doing it.

The complication comes if your looking to integrate the (3) accounts to maximize the return of your online time.

By far the easiest way is to just have three dedicated miners. The activites are localized, meaning that your attention is more focused, and you don't have to be too snappy on the alt-tabbing. It's also very lucrative.

Next would be having (3) industrial charaters, dedicated to Factory/Prototype/Marketing. You'll spend most of your time buying and transporting raw goods and produced goods, analyzing the market, and working on spread sheets. But you'll be very competitive very quickly - the PT/RE character will lag a little behind. You'll also spend a lot of time in chat, since you'll need to deal personally with people for things not on the market.

Last, you could do (3) charaters for farming. 2 combat and 1 support. This takes a lot of alt-tabbing and focus for your entire game time, but you'll earn alot of NIC.

When you start mixing, you're going to get less effect from each group. You simply can't work spreadsheets and view market data while your in combat, but you can mine, but you risk getting roamed on and you have to back out of combat occasionally to move the miner around. End result is you'll be less effienct in both.

Personally, I play for the variety, and not the effciency. I don't mind having my miner bot in a transport just idling while I combat, or if my production lines are running continually, and lastly having my combat tune sit on the can while I mine.

For me, if I was to start 3 new bots, I would go 1 mostly miner with some combat support (remote rep), Laser combat bot with enough to mine with termis (so you can have 2 miners going) and a production/marketer that can at least drive a seq. Keeping the bots in the same activites at the same time (all mining, all combat) is just simpler to manage. And you have time with dual mining to do spreadsheets and market research.