well, the tyrannos has two turret slots... the gropho has none.

ther may be player out there who have built their extensions around both missiles and turrets. they are gimped if they use a gropho.

the dev vision is: they gave us robots with 2 more slots.
those are robots that give you much more freedom in fitting them (after all, roaming gangs are built of ewar bots that have 50% of their slots unequiped)

actually i have no intention to complain about any mk2 robot stats as they are now.
- i really only agree with those who say that their production costs are to high (far to high if you consider that they need consume twice the material + extra)

Reasons to use a gropho over a tyrannos mk2

1. Gropho costs about half as much to make.
2. 50% more damage
3. higher optimal range (can't get a good range fit on tyrannos mk2 due to cpu issues)
4. higher locking range.

I think gropho has tyrannos mk2 trumped.

Now see there, you made a decent argument.  There are reasons to use both the Tyrannos mk2 and the gropho for different reasons.

Well I don't agree with you, lets go through your points:
1. COST: a fully kitted out gropho and Tyrannos mk2 will cost practically the same. (not a good reason)
2. 50% MORE DPS: Yes, a good reason to use a gropho
3. and 4. OPTIMAL/LOCKING RANGE:  This is actually one point not two as you can't do one without the other (a good reason).

So really you have listed 2 points for a gropho and I have listed 5 for a tyrannos mk2.  Doesn't look like the gropho really has the upper hand as you had claimed earlier.

Actually on the range and locking the gropho can do both if paired with another gropho, tyrannos mk2 cannot. It will get almost 100 less range and that's just too much of a big difference to ignore.

100m means a lot if those seconds actually take about 15 seconds to close and the opponent you're closing has 50% more dps and a higher hp buffer than you, GG. Which they will because gropho is only about 6 slower than tyrannos.

Actually i barely even play perpetuum anymore, so no bots for me of any kind. I log in to build some T4 stuff, heavy mechs, which don't even sell, i have around 30 heavy mechs on the market and in my hangar. Really the MK2 is just something I bought and have been toying around with fittings for incase I ever feel like playing the game again properly, but I guess that depends on the future devlopment and also the population. My fiance and I's combat alts are fully trained from pre-release day with all EP invested into being the ultimate missile mech pilot, focused on the Tyrannos and Gropho. Just a shame that the Tyrannos mk2 is made inert due to poor game design choices.

There's really no reason for me to leave the terminal at this time, even pvp is pointless for me because there's nothing worth fighting over (to me).

Sure sure, it's always about the future, it might be useful in the future. If perpetuum can't get their content right, even simple stuff, it'll be lucky to have a future. I really hope Perpetuum succeeds, I knew the population would dwindle but hope that future patches will slowly bring the game to its potential.

Really so why all the complaining about no CPU for your Mk2 if your not even using it for PVP/ or at all? I fit a Tyranos Mk1 for PVE and I fit weird stuff and I still use the misc slots for what ever i feel like taking (harvester to hit that noralgis on the way back home from farming) I have no problem carebearing in a Tryanos! What do you want to snipe in PVE anyway kiting is so easy.

Also if you would post up your fit it would be easier for all of us to see why your having problems and possibly give the devs a reason to care. Right now if you look from their perspective... they see you complaining with no proof and everyone else posting viable fits for a Mk2. Sorry if its harsh but you need to back up your claim better.

Just +1 to author of topic.

I show you why mk 2's so good.

Hey now i have more super de duper secret fits i have yet to use!