Re: Virtual Wars - A safe PVP minigame

Annihilator wrote:

where is written that perpetuum cant have this?

Not any place.

Annihilator wrote:

and where exactly is written that Perpetuum is a Sandbox?

Not even the DEVs have used that definition:
http://www.perpetuum-online.com/Features

Right on the front page of the Perpetuum website it states:

Persistent sandbox universe
Every player is part of one server, one scene, one storyline.

John 3:16 - Timothy 2:23

Re: Virtual Wars - A safe PVP minigame

And that, of course, is one reason that these discussions get so heated: different definitions and people talking about totally different questions.

If the definition of sandbox is: "Every player is part of one server, one scene, one storyline" -- and that's it -- then a great many people read a lot of "and" into the definition, so that "sandbox" becomes their version of what it should be.

If we accept the above definition, then Perpetuum is a sandbox game essentially because it has everyone playing in the same world, period.  The various gameplay mechanics, types of play, set-up of islands, etc., may contribute to the "feeling of being in a sandbox", but are not part of the definition.

So, what we are really taking about seems to be: what toys do we wish to play with in the sandbox?  And do we need to worry about making the sandbox inviting enough to attract people that like different toys, or do we cater to a narrower selection in favour of certain types of play?  If we want to play with blocks, do we want people in the box that would rather play with action figures?  Or dump trucks?  Or do we shoo them away, to keep our low-population blocks game "pure"?

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Re: Virtual Wars - A safe PVP minigame

If you wan't a casual PvP system that doesn't violate any part of the sandbox:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Red_Vs_Blue_(RvB)

"Red versus Blue (or RvB) is a straight-forward institution. There are two high-sec corporations, the Red Federation and the Blue Republic, with a permanent war declaration between them. Any player may join either side as they wish and indulge in target-rich PvP, the focus of which is on inexpensive frigate and cruiser combat. It really is that simple: Apply to one of the corps, the application will be accepted, jump in a ship, start PvPing."

These guys have it right. Both of their corps have more than twice the kills of any other corp in EVE in the same time period: http://rvbeve.com/red/?a=home

Sadly perpetuum doesn't have a corp war mechanic that could support this.

Looking forward to new players and new conflicts.