I'm sure its nothing to do with this:

http://killboard.sequer.nl/?a=kill-rela … l_id=50517

Or the hundreds of sequers and arkhes dying over the last few months by PoE.

Learn how to abuse beacons?

Do you feel better now?

It still doesn't answer the questions about your motivation for this change. Given that this is alongside your problem with 'dropping cans' (read beacons) found in the below I see a pattern emerging.

http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topi … field-can/

This is PITA!

I had the same problem before. You are forced to work as a team EVERY TIME!

So put a *** PING OUT!!!

Stop being so *** lazy, and ask us for help.

Turrets shooting NPC's would be a godsend for all Gamma dwellers.

Why's everyone got to be macroing Jita??  Not everyone is a shadey *** trying to do sketchy ***.  It's hard to put Pvp targets out on gamma with npcs up people's *** every 4 minutes.

You can attack me personally if it makes you feel better but the main reason - that you all stated - for the reintroduction of red rats to Alpha 2 was preventing botting. By making turrets shoot rats you are basically creating the same safety on Gamma provided you drop a station and a couple of turrets.

I agree that red rats on Alpha is a good thing. I just think that if your going to bring turrets shooting NPC's on Gamma you need to have a few conditions in there such as:

No beacons within 1500m of a turret

Building a structure moves a mining spot 3km from any structure

Otherwise your encouraging botting in perfect safety and thats something that I hope we are all against.

I'm been waiting on this uneducated opinion.  Before we even talk about teamwork let's look at the population of the server.  Find a group of 5 players in 1 corp actively playing who aren't alts.  There's 30 dudes in general chat during my Timezone and out of those thirty I see 2 or my alts.  Id be willing to bet there's about 150ish unique players across all Timezones.  Finding a corporation that has those 6 people who are interested in gamma is next to impossible.  In my corp alone there's 6 active players across all time zones: me, Abe, race, Carlitos, Toni, and toel.  4 of those players are outside my Timezone.  Leaves 2 guys in my Timezone.  2 guys to battle npcs, 3 packs of observers and 8 to 10 spawns.  While trying to get some noralgis picked.

There's no epriton on gamma.  So what are you going to bot????  Liquizit??  HDT??  FFS if I'm going to move a base out there, supply it with energy and put up turrets just for 200 million HDT, I just lost money.  Same with liquizit!! 

And Your logic on abusing observer stash?  First is have to find it, then put up a base and supply it with energy then build turrets....  All for an observer stash?

You can't sprawl gamma stuff, you have small little bubbles you can build in and that's it.  If you think for a second we undock and hit a scan on artifacts and 15 of them pop under my feet it's even more evident you haven't scanned on gamma. 

There's no walling off areas there's red zones.  And getting interrupted every 5 minutes with instantaneously spawning roaming caravans not how I want to spend an evening.  I'd like to be able to do what I want to do when I log into a game that I want to play.

I just for the record I don't like being turtled up behind teraforming and turrets I'd like more space to pvp in.

It is ok to take breaks from posting Jita, when you lose your logic we see these kinds of posts.

Ville is not asking for the removal of bots but proper tuning, we all know you can read and comprehend.

Tuning to be done through a number of methods for example.

A) Enable turrets attacking NPC's
        -Many have already stated the range issue on Turrets currently both for players and NPC's
B) Scale the NPC population in relation to the player population

Why you are doom and glooming this thread is.... up to you...