Topic: A way of balancing Beta's ...

I was sitting in my chair staring at the world map and was thinking of how we could alleviate the power of the alliance and anyone else who tries to pull the same antics.

Make it to where a Corp can only hold a maximum of 3 outposts with 100% efficiency (1 of each color) after that the drop to 75% for 4 and 50% across the board for 5.  I am referring to any bonuses given by the station, whether buffs or facilities.  Perhaps they should have more take over timers providing absolutely no loot for defending them (all Outposts) unless they have 3 or less Outposts.

The strong get stronger while the weak struggle to get a foothold somewhere.  Where is everyone going?  Being forced to be on Alpha due to the power of the Elites ... thats great.  And the steam players went where?  Maybe the server move will bring them back ... because we know it was lag that was the entire issue ...

I don't expect the power hungry to like this, but I don't care.  It was just a thought that there should be some sort of drawback for the power hungry.  smile

Good luck peeps.  Flame away.

-Ensi

Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

I've figured out how to alleviate the power of the alliance: undock and fight, don't spam tickets.

Goddamn less than two months in the game and CONs is turning into STC.

Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

Need more islands and or less sparks.

Putting number cap is easily overcome with alt corps.

But agree in concept that one power should not be able to dominate whole map.

Sparking to other games

Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

You're funny

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Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

Rex Amelius wrote:

Need more islands and or less sparks.

Putting number cap is easily overcome with alt corps.

But agree in concept that one power should not be able to dominate whole map.

This.

Please lets not have any more artificial "X of something per corp" limits (like we do with probes).  It does not address the core problem.

+1
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It was an idea on the fly.  Kinda made sense.  It should be a lot harder for a Corporation or Alliance to defend its multiple Outposts and having diminishing returns for the lack of real control makes sense.  Just because it's at 100 doesn't mean its being protected ...

-Ensi

Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

It was an idea on the fly.  Kinda made sense.  It should be a lot harder for a Corporation or Alliance to defend its multiple Outposts and having diminishing returns for the lack of real control makes sense.  Just because it's at 100 doesn't mean its being protected ...

-Ensi

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If it's not being protected, doesn't that make it easier to attack an outpost?

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It should, but when people fear leaving Alphas for beta blobs it won't happen. 

If you guys would relinquish control to a few islands things could seriously turn around.  If not, we will see how long the game stays active with the current population.  How many times have you guys left because of no pvp?  3 I believe? 

How soon before you get it ... there will be very little to no pvp when you act all greedy.  You can control them all ... but SHOULD you? 

Think of the game's future ... it's not just about you guys.   

Sorry, that was off topic.  Something I wanted to get off my chest for a while. 

-Ensi

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gamma will fix that

CIR will not have enough spark teleport destinations and alts to cover all beta islands within a few minutes. Thats what syndic said.

the current intrusion system was implemented to possibly have several saps on several islangs going off at the same time to prevent one small corp getting them all (works great, doesn't it?)

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There may or may not be a 54 page I TOLD YOU thread.  But don't listen to Ville...

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Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

Thought of but not thought out.  smile

-Ensi

Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

blame the devs

tired of doing their job

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Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

Ensireka wrote:

It should, but when people fear leaving Alphas for beta blobs it won't happen. 

If you guys would relinquish control to a few islands things could seriously turn around.  If not, we will see how long the game stays active with the current population.  How many times have you guys left because of no pvp?  3 I believe? 

How soon before you get it ... there will be very little to no pvp when you act all greedy.  You can control them all ... but SHOULD you? 

Think of the game's future ... it's not just about you guys.   

Sorry, that was off topic.  Something I wanted to get off my chest for a while. 

-Ensi

Why? Multiple vet corps have given your corporation hundreds of fitted assaults and lights. Use them. If you want islands go capture them. If we want them we'll defend them or attack them. That's the point of the game.

We gave you an entire island (Norhoop) for a month and your whole alliance cascaded into goat simulator after 1 fight and 2-3 days of lazy roaming. You don't want an outpost, you want to roam others and squeal blob when you get roamed by 5 dudes.

You've been given more then enough freebies and considerations.

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15 (edited by Rex Amelius 2014-06-11 18:52:33)

Re: A way of balancing Beta's ...

Ville wrote:

There may or may not be a 54 page I TOLD YOU thread.  But don't listen to Ville...

Yeppers.

Current 77CIR obviously dominating map in today's political landscape (yesterday was STC, tomorrow its somebody else but story is the same). They don't need to 'own' the stations or even 'want to control' all the islands. They simply want pvp anywhere they can find it. And like a pack of starving coyotes they will pounce on any island thats convenient.

Key word here is 'convenient'

Too few islands too many sparks (lots of accounts) makes being everywhere too easy. You ca t ask the Coyote to stop eating. Game needs more islands first then a continuing balance toward regional power bases.

Sparking to other games

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Please correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't CONS describe itself as a mercenary corp anyway?

I'm not much interested in roleplay but I feel it might aid your cause a little if, whilst you're spinning in your office chair, reading the world map and dreaming of conquest, you devise a method of achieving more than 10 kills per week rather than worrying about taking other players' stuff by some mechanic other than pvp.

Seeing as you do like to RP, I'll provide you with a couple of scenarios you could try to act out and you'll see that neither actually require ownership of a beta island or outpost.

Scenario A. The Mercenary!

I am a mercenary. I'm sold to the highest bidder. I should never concern myself with owning a beta outpost or island as the contracts which provide my lifeblood might dictate that I can't be there to defend my valuable assets when the time comes.

Scenario B. The Contractor.

I am a contractor. I need several billion Nic in assets escorted to a hot gamma location for huge profit but I'm not wishing to enter into negotiations with some 'powerblock' and become assimilated. I require some mercenaries to escort me, for the right price of course! I heard those CONS guys provide this type of service but on their last mission they pulled out halfway across gamma to protect their sap / nora / whatever. That poor contractor guy lost EVERYTHING!

Hope that helps, happy RPing! \o/

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17 (edited by Tyrone Biggumz 2014-06-12 21:46:51)

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K .. so im in the Strip Klub twirlin  my thang to funky-co-madina ( gotta make that money !! ) ... about 10 of us on the diffrent stages in the spot cuz thats how we get down ... but ya know Your boy is good at what he dose so all the chicken headz and MILFs and cougers flock to see the kid in action ... they all basicly love my " skill package" and i cant blame the tricks ..

After the night the manager comes up to me talkin bout " Tyrone Biggumz im going to need you to NOT pick up half the money thats thrown at you while your on stage so after the show is over the other guys can come pick up the money that was right at your finger tips".... " Ya see tyrone  if you take all the money thats thrown at you the other strippers will become depressed and sad and quit or maybe even hang themself in the dressing room..... IM LIKE !!!   ......................... ummmmm... hummmm. wellll...... noooooooo...  So i pimp slap that fool grab a bottle from behind the bar and my "Sea bag" full of ones and hit the door cuz ya boy dont let no one play with his Dabloons.

Point of all this Broke back mountain crap is ... NOT my job to fix how the game is played ... the manager sets down the rules  if he wants it even ... i always go for everything i can grab ... thats life ... tell walmart to stop selling so much stuff cheap while your at it ......

AND IM OUT !!
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