You mean safe logout?

But that's how it is on the live server too.

That rule was switched to the combination of two things: your robot is not removed as long as you are attacked, and your modules stop when you log out with a pvp flag.

Another Note.  Your mods need to stop whenever your disconnect, safelog out, or basically drop any connection.

We still have magical disconnected mining going on.

Hm, by this logic remove the flag itself then.

Really, if there isn't any point to it then just pull it.  Right now the only thing it removes me from doing is docking up.

The point is what I had thought you intended it to be.  Was to give out a small penalty for attacking whatever you did, and giving others a chance to counter you, rather then just giving out a 2 min window, you have a 7 min window.

I am actually quite shocked that this was intentionally put in.

Ok then rename the PVP flag to something else.

Zoom please understand this HELPS me and how I play, it DOES NOT hurt me in anyway.

This is just so asininely dumb I cant express it.

And having a PVP flag DOES state your in combat or WERE in combat.  That would be why its called a PVP FLAG.

Edit: This also does not screw people, with your changes to leave any island with a flag whenever they wish.

The PvP flag is and always has been just an indicator that you can be attacked even in protected zones. In this regard it does not make much sense in an inherently PvP zone, it's just part of the global mechanics. Over time we have tied a few mechanics to it because it made sense, but this doesn't mean that it's all we can use to solve problems or that we can't change its importance in favor of something more dynamic like the "in combat" status.

You're arguing about mechanics for the sake of arguing and semantics but I still haven't seen anything about what's wrong with the current setup.

^ Agreed.

If you gank someone on hostile territory(say on someone's gamma) and just X-out the client, it's very likely nothing will be able to reach you with that time but on the other hand, if you were to wait out the timer and safelog, you are in much more danger. X-ing out a client should not be used tactically.

This is just one example.

You gank a scarab on a gamma teleport, or for that matter you even shoot a proximity probe on a gamma teleport. Should you be able to log out before a tp beacon can warm up? That's the issue I think. instead of 7 minutes to do so before, its now 2 minutes..

Bingo......

I had thought that I was originally helping, I can see now that my help is nu-nessicary.

Zoom: You seem to be ok for players to disappear from game with pvp flag after 2 minutes, that is clear and it is your opinion on the matter, fine.. but pvp flagged you cannot enter terminal for 5 mins which is the way you want it too ,so basically, 2 different timers are contradicting themselves. Which one do you want?

So what does the player do? They will use the 2 minute logoff timer instead of docking and there goes the other timer out the window. It's meaningless.

Celebro this is what I was attempting to get at.

Zoom I just dont care any more what way it is, I would just rather see some consistency on the matter however.
As it stands now I am far better off just logging out and watching with another guy to save a larger more expensive bot.  Rather then running around, or running to a terminal.

If you wish to keep it how it is, fine.  Just reduce the PVP flag down to 2 min, so that this is equal to enter terminals as well. 

Right now you have no control over logins, but you do have control over people running to log out.  As a example, again Eve, uses a 15 min aggression timer.  You stay on grid until your 15 min is up, and THEN you go poof after you log out.  If your targeted then you stay no matter what (I like this btw).

Using that as a example I would, dare I say, actually INCREASE the timer.  But I highly doubt anyone will even want to touch that one with a five foot pole.