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Topic: Fool me once shame on you....... adios everyone.

Today's announcement is the last straw....

I am not beta testing this game for three more years.




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2 Reply by Inda (edited by Inda 2014-01-19 23:33:56)

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Hell I dont want to hear that!

Gunner THERE WAS NOT ANNOUNCMENT (yet)!

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18.01.2014. [12:57:58] <BeastmodeGuNs> after that i remembered all those warning about 1v1 you lol, and i found out why xD

3 Reply by Gunner (edited by Gunner 2014-01-19 23:47:01)

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Re: Fool me once shame on you....... adios everyone.

I am just kidding about quitting, but there is a grain of truth here.

What if I was Mr. builder guy instead of Mr. attacker guy??

How many times do we have to tollerate being crapped on?





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Today's announcement is the last straw....

I am not beta testing this game for three more years.




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Tease..

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Re: Fool me once shame on you....... adios everyone.

Gunner wrote:

I am just kidding about quitting, but there is a grain of truth here.

What if I was Mr. builder guy instead of Mr. attacker guy??

How many times do we have to tollerate being crapped on?

This needs to be fixed before Steam, it may not be perfectly balance for sure but it's a good step in the right direction, its just a game, I enjoyed building bases. I would do it again? Not sure if reward is there.

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6 Reply by Gunner (edited by Gunner 2014-01-19 23:59:45)

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I  am 100% on board with changes.

I just think that some people (not me) invested   1000's of hours and Billions of nic on something that is about to be Reset/Wiped.


The point is this keeps happening and this is the largest scale yet.  How many people are going to just quit this time around?

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Gunner wrote:

I am just kidding about quitting, but there is a grain of truth here.

What if I was Mr. builder guy instead of Mr. attacker guy??

How many times do we have to tollerate being crapped on?

This needs to be fixed before Steam, it may not be perfectly balance for sure but it's a good step in the right direction, its just a game, I enjoyed building bases. I would do it again? Not sure if reward is there.

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Better question is how many people will go and build on Gamma after it gets wiped?

8 Reply by Gunner (edited by Gunner 2014-01-20 00:09:24)

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Completely valid.  Bases will be more tactical and perhaps temporary, like a weekend op.


..but this thread is not about Gamma, it is about the affect of massive atom bomb changes have on the average player.

..for me, this game has always been about the journey, not the destination, but a lot of people dont see things the way I do


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Better question is how many people will go and build on Gamma after it gets wiped?

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Better question is how many people will go and build on Gamma after it gets wiped?


If gamma is fixed properly and player like the changes, if Steam bring a whole bunch of new players, then many who have left after the gamma expansion will certainly come back.

I think players will be hesitant to build a base like the first time but given time, player will start building small to test the new grounds, but I insist there needs to be greater rewards.

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This gamma-wipe. However needed it might be etc, will be a heavier hit on some vets then a change to the EP-GAP would ever do. Were talking bout 1000s of gaming hours on rebuilding the gamma islands. Will there be a compensation for that? I think not. And I feel bad for those that have done it. I can almost hear the air zipping out of their balloon...

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Hey, screw Gamma, let's get back to Betas! Switch on Intrusion 1.0, let's play an old good game we had earlier!

Also: your stuff, I shall have!

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he will back. i believe.

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he will back. i believe.

He was joking to begin with

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Line wrote:

Hey, screw Gamma, let's get back to Betas! Switch on Intrusion 1.0, let's play an old good game we had earlier!

Also: your stuff, I shall have!

LOL old intrusions were so lol but..... Best fleet fights ever 100+ vs 100+

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Hey, screw Gamma, let's get back to Betas! Switch on Intrusion 1.0, let's play an old good game we had earlier!

Also: your stuff, I shall have!

LOL old intrusions were so lol but..... Best fleet fights ever 100+ vs 100+

Still better than spending 2-3 hours per day to prevent ninja saps

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Line wrote:
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Line wrote:

Hey, screw Gamma, let's get back to Betas! Switch on Intrusion 1.0, let's play an old good game we had earlier!

Also: your stuff, I shall have!

LOL old intrusions were so lol but..... Best fleet fights ever 100+ vs 100+

Still better than spending 2-3 hours per day to prevent ninja saps

Yeah but the token system was so broken

Way to easy to just use alt corp the farm tokens and then defend with tokens forever

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Get rid of random 24/7 saps Have it like Gamma in that you specify the approx timer for an intrusion & you get no intrusion generated unless some one comes along & shoots your station. ect ect

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This gamma-wipe. However needed it might be etc, will be a heavier hit on some vets then a change to the EP-GAP would ever do. Were talking bout 1000s of gaming hours on rebuilding the gamma islands. Will there be a compensation for that? I think not. And I feel bad for those that have done it. I can almost hear the air zipping out of their balloon...

Yeah...  I agree..   TBH I was waiting on a rage post from Hunter.

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Were talking bout 1000s of gaming hours on rebuilding the gamma islands. Will there be a compensation for that? I think not. And I feel bad for those that have done it. I can almost hear the air zipping out of their balloon...

I don't want to diminish the impact of this all, but that's a quite skewed view. If you were entertained during those 1000s of hours then you haven't lost anything what this or any game is primarily about.

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Were talking bout 1000s of gaming hours on rebuilding the gamma islands. Will there be a compensation for that? I think not. And I feel bad for those that have done it. I can almost hear the air zipping out of their balloon...

I don't want to diminish the impact of this all, but that's a quite skewed view. If you were entertained during those 1000s of hours then you haven't lost anything what this or any game is primarily about.

Assuming this game is mostly like a 2nd work - we were entertained indeed big_smile

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I don't want to diminish the impact of this all, but that's a quite skewed view. If you were entertained during those 1000s of hours then you haven't lost anything what this or any game is primarily about.

Exactly. The Gamma Frontier has been a blast to explore. There have been plenty of bumps along the way, but I have had a ball spending time out here. But I think everyone who has spent time out here building their fortress realizes that things aren't exactly right.

I think the people that will be lost if things don't get fixed is WAY greater than the people that will be lost by resetting gamma. Lets get this *** fixed and explore the Gamma Frontier all over again!

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As I stated, I am in it for the journey, but I didnt spend 10 billion nic on content either.

I cant fathom what it is like for the dozens of people who really enjoyed doing things as they are now?

Ever trust again ???

What pissed me off is we got a taste of some really exciting PvP with the mechanics as they are now.



This thread is about what people think about very large changes, not Gamma topic itself.



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Were talking bout 1000s of gaming hours on rebuilding the gamma islands. Will there be a compensation for that? I think not. And I feel bad for those that have done it. I can almost hear the air zipping out of their balloon...

I don't want to diminish the impact of this all, but that's a quite skewed view. If you were entertained during those 1000s of hours then you haven't lost anything what this or any game is primarily about.

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Other than Optikhan, I don't know of anyone really who doesn't want this change... At least anyone who has spent any time exploring gamma content anyway... I think you are sensationalizing the topic tbh.

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Were talking bout 1000s of gaming hours on rebuilding the gamma islands. Will there be a compensation for that? I think not. And I feel bad for those that have done it. I can almost hear the air zipping out of their balloon...

I don't want to diminish the impact of this all, but that's a quite skewed view. If you were entertained during those 1000s of hours then you haven't lost anything what this or any game is primarily about.

I don't want to cut you down too much but I think you've seen a disconnect between what you want this game to do and what you think it does versus what the players actually do and what players want to achieve.  Even if you make this change roaming gammas not going to be like roaming beta.  The only thing your doing is letting gate campers have a chance and people who have max detectors.  Honestly you fix nothing.

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I don't want to cut you down too much but I think you've seen a disconnect between what you want this game to do and what you think it does versus what the players actually do and what players want to achieve.  Even if you make this change roaming gammas not going to be like roaming beta.  The only thing your doing is letting gate campers have a chance and people who have max detectors.  Honestly you fix nothing.

This isnt about making Gammas Like Betas and you know it. Gamma needs to be more dynamic and this is the first step.I can even dig up your forum posts advocating doing it if you need me to. At this point we just need to try and help the DEV's do it in the most effective way possible.

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