Its amazing all this "doom and gloom" would seem to be coming from one side of the coin.

If you do a wipe, you quite possibly kill the game, It's beginning to seem that would be what people would want.

Most are looking at the massive amounts of nic, minerals, and basically anything else you want to say, as a general bad thing.

However who is going to start putting items up on the markets when things turn around?  Personally I have billion's of items just waiting for the right moment to place them on the market.  Will I make a profit, sure.  Will I provide a service, yep.  I know I'm not alone on this either. 

The base is there, the player base that is, we can see that by who is playing in-game now, and who continues to post on these forums, screaming "the game is dead the game is dead", as well as those who chose to come back when needed.

Is the game in trouble sure, dead, far from it.

http://blog.perpetuum-online.com/posts/ … instances/

This is just one step in the right direction.

Vroom wrote:

The flip side of Merkles post is it will be the same vets pushing the markets that will fuel pvp for newer clans trying to get a foothold on a pvp island, you'll be showing up to SAP provoking pvp, ghankking Indys while selling them all the bits and pieces on the market.  Why would you do this?  Because you can and everyone loves winning and you'll justify not hitting SAPs at first as just "friendly" PVP then after the new clans blueball a fight a few times then you'll hit SAPS to which you mount a huge offensive to crush their morale and then they'll eventually stop playing and you'll justify this well they shouldn't have been there in the first place.  Replace SAPs with turrets or w/e for Gamma.  Of course you wouldn't want to start fresh.  It's the vicious cycle of perpetuum.  It's the way this game is designed.

Just to be clear.  "Everyone" doesn't grind new corps out of the game, "YOU"  grind new corps out of the game.  Isn't that CIR's and friends Stated mission?  Wasn't Syndic's battle cry during the second War to grind everyone off of Beta?  The problem you have here is the "If I do it, everyone else must do it" mentality.  Kinda how a person who steals, is always worried about getting there stuff stolen.  As far as I can tell, your alliance is the only group in the game that has ground anybody off of the server.  Which is rather confusing to say the least, because you and your corpies are some of the loudest when it comes to screaming the game is dead.  Which then begs the question of why is syndic and friends here at all if you dislike this game to the point where you try and ruin it for everyone else?

That's the way this game is played though, Arga. There will always be people that are more progressed than others. StateCorp played as an underdog for a long time and consisted mostly of newbies but look at STC now. Start is always hard for newer corps but it is certainly doable with the right people.

Vroom, here's Lobos words about Domhalarn situation: "Lol your kidding me right we made the decision about 3 months ago that when dark fall releases were done with perp if it had not made a patch or gone live on steam. Enjoyed the ride but the others are right games dead."

Hope you have something more to reply than just one sentence or I won't even bother reading.

Vroom wrote:

The flip side of Merkles post is it will be the same vets pushing the markets that will fuel pvp for newer clans trying to get a foothold on a pvp island, you'll be showing up to SAP provoking pvp, ghankking Indys while selling them all the bits and pieces on the market.  Why would you do this?  Because you can and everyone loves winning and you'll justify not hitting SAPs at first as just "friendly" PVP then after the new clans blueball a fight a few times then you'll hit SAPS to which you mount a huge offensive to crush their morale and then they'll eventually stop playing and you'll justify this well they shouldn't have been there in the first place.  Replace SAPs with turrets or w/e for Gamma.  Of course you wouldn't want to start fresh.  It's the vicious cycle of perpetuum.  It's the way this game is designed.

Just to be clear.  "Everyone" doesn't grind new corps out of the game, "YOU"  grind new corps out of the game.  Isn't that CIR's and friends Stated mission?  Wasn't Syndic's battle cry during the second War to grind everyone off of Beta?  The problem you have here is the "If I do it, everyone else must do it" mentality.  Kinda how a person who steals, is always worried about getting there stuff stolen.  As far as I can tell, your alliance is the only group in the game that has ground anybody off of the server.  Which is rather confusing to say the least, because you and your corpies are some of the loudest when it comes to screaming the game is dead.  Which then begs the question of why is syndic and friends here at all if you dislike this game to the point where you try and ruin it for everyone else?

The only time I've been in STC and felt like I've shot (or STC has) someone we shouldn't have was when we shot AIC when they were neutral. We ended up pushing them to your side, and they did and do pretty good at PVP now.

Just to be clear.  "Everyone" doesn't grind new corps out of the game, "YOU"  grind new corps out of the game.  Isn't that CIR's and friends Stated mission?  Wasn't Syndic's battle cry during the second War to grind everyone off of Beta?  The problem you have here is the "If I do it, everyone else must do it" mentality.  Kinda how a person who steals, is always worried about getting there stuff stolen.  As far as I can tell, your alliance is the only group in the game that has ground anybody off of the server.  Which is rather confusing to say the least, because you and your corpies are some of the loudest when it comes to screaming the game is dead.  Which then begs the question of why is syndic and friends here at all if you dislike this game to the point where you try and ruin it for everyone else?

Are we sititng in the living room playing Monoply with our little sister, keeping the game interesting by letting her win, so she doesn't get frustrated and quit?

Now, it does seem a little unfair that we start with 90% of the land titles and most of the bank, but thats the rules fault, not the players.