Syndic good post.

I would like add something to this tread.
I think here is another big problem.

basic RC 46 DAYS <> 67 advance RC

I just skipped the basic RC in the first glance, after I realized the EP consumption when I start the game.

Why? Beacuse of farming, I did this before releaze and after. So basically I didnt used well the light robots but I had this extensions for mech.

After I reached the good mech level train light.

SOLUTION?

Make mech robot control bit higher and light bit easier

30 : 90

I dont know the actual statement and what the neewbies feel like.

Option B sounds good at first look but then....then I just afraid that it will lead us to even more separation, like each specialized robot of each class could have his own extension etc.

And then, Anni is right - no matter of changes, newbies will level and run in heavier bots rather than lighter, because they are: stronger, have more hp/ap, slots etc, and most important - they are, you know, BIGGER.

Common newbie is unfamiliar with the game mechanics so hes trying to run in a light bot, crosses npc mech/hmech, dies, makes a conclusion that bigger=better AND HES WRONG but he will not know that until spent time and learned.

As a result, all you will get by changing current extensions - is hordes of vets in lvl10 lights/assaults as cheap zerg.

-1 unless anything else changed.

Just noticed:
1. wrong forum section. this is a balacing issue, not feature
2. basicly the same topic as the one i started over there where you wrote exactly the same.

while its true, that the robot bonus is a great factor on beeing competitive, its hardly scratching the reason why it is even necessary to have that extension as high as possible as soon as possible:

everything in this game is nerfed down so it doesn't become imbalanced when you use the highest tier availiable with the extensions maxed out on the bot with the bonus for it.
Since many of the factors are multiplying, some are even exponentially (tunings), you get the result we see:

1. everything resolves around T4 items.
   any Discussion you see ist about how to make it easier to access T4 (endgame) items.
   DEVs react - making it easier to research them...

2. extensions are worthless below lvl5,
   more then half of the equip availiable is worthless if not used on the right bot, or below T4, or both

3. New player leaving after a few weeks since they have reached "endgame" pretty fast:
   Sitting in a mech, doing the same thing over and over to be able to lose said mech in a few second lasting PvP fight.

most of the game consists of either walking, or waiting in a station, or waiting offline to accumulate said EP.

+1 Skilling your way up to a mech is too easy, Option A seems a good fix, no need to over complicate or follow Eve's path on this.  Merkle: Stop post pics of my GF pls

A] Times to learn should not be shortened.

B] This could work in the future of the game but as it stands right now, why would any new player spec in to light or assault when there so few options for lights and even less for assaults.

~ once there is 6 to 10 options in each one of these 4 robot classes i could see this working well for specialization.

~ the current system will / can work perfectly fine IF there are new robots introduced and their specializations / bonuses are done correctly.

Also just because it takes 46/67 days to train these skills to their highest level does not mean it will take a new player that long to be effective.

I don't think its correct to compare new player skills to a veteran player skills or capabilities. In any game the more experienced player will have an advantage over some one just coming to the game.

to close the new player gap to quickly by changing the way skills / EP is earned or lowering the requirements of specific skills is just watering down the game. (good for people who come and go form the game .. bad for those who have stuck it out the whole time with active subs)

Does anyone else get the feeling the only reason Syndic ever posts anything on the forums is to try and exploit something he proposes?

Yeah I totally wanna try exploiting getting a game with more then 50-100 people gifting accounts and botting scripts like candy with the Devs unable to ban them cause then they'd have to shut the game down.

If so, they could go forums and post everything they find imba. You, asking for changes, is nothing more than a "vet with gifted accounts" asking for "balancing game around him" (cuz no newbies posted such ideas yet).

Your point is still not obvious. Group of newbies in lights/assaults leveled to 5s could buttsex your mofo leet vet Gropho, it's mostly the matter of skillz instead of extensionz.

Most of current vets have "light" skills at 5 so there is no difference and even no real need to level BRC higher than that, except light ewars.

I'm proposing an option to streamline newbie progression. You got a better idea put it down, cause I got 2 years worth of microscopic active population versus ~27,000 created player-accounts saying the current system is bogus. All you got is "ME NO LIKE SYNDIC!".

That is not an argument, that is a troll.

A problem doesn't become a problem only once enough people start complaining about it. What you think most of newbies want is irrelevant. I do not care if assaults or lights or heavy mechs are more attractive.

With option A; newbies will reach reasonably competitive levels faster.
With option B; newbies will have less trouble specializing into their favorite role/class of bot.

The overall problem is player retention. 27,428 accounts have been created to date, how many are currently online?

The modular approach to solving the problem is evident in the Devblogs; Industry 2.0 made it easier for newbies to produce, Research revamp will make it easier for newbies to get tech, the PvE revamps will make it easier for newbies to PVE.

What isn't being tackled is the elephant in the room, that being nobody in their right mind is going to pay the Devs 5-6 months of sub-time to get enough EP to be at a relatively competitive level with the existing ~150-200 active accounts. It needs to be streamlined, or population influx from Steam will tank just like the EVE exodus did.

Thank you for your valuable input in this feature discussion. I hope you have more wisdom you could share with us.

Line you are not reasonable