Topic: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

DEV Zoom wrote:

We have a new idea for making the tier system less linear and more accessible, it would look like this:

Normal tiered items according to the current system (new name in parentheses):
T0 (T0): stays as it is
T1 (T1): stays as it is
T2 (T1+): stays as it is, requires T1 modules to build like now
T3 (T2): remove current T2 modules from its components
T4 (T2+): stays as it is, requires current T3 modules to build
T5 (T3): brand new tier, no component prerequisites, uses colixum-based commodities
T6 (T3+): brand new tier, requires T5 to build

So the system would be built up of tier pairs, one normal variant that needs more “exotic” commodities as we go up in tiers, and one “+” variant that needs the normal as a component. The common trait of + variants would be lower fitting requirements than their normal variant. The important thing to note here is that higher tiers wouldn’t have cascading requirements anymore.

In the new system, tier designations for factional items would be:
T2+ -> T1F
T3- -> T2F
T4+ -> T3F

As for robot variants, the naming is yet undecided.

This could be a very good change IMHO.

I dunno about turning current t4 items into t3+ and adding two new tiers ONTOP of it. under current balance, those higher tiers will be WAAAAAAAY better then t1 in every aspect, and mass produced but not sold on market by communistic corps.

under the current small population the wrong way to go IMHO

one thing i REALLY demand there is a clear naming of the items. Example of current naming:

(T1)Standard Medium HCL Laser
(T2)Tertzer Medium HCL Laser
(T3)Thelotec.-Icle I. medium HCL Laser
(T4)Phisker 30PW medium HCL Laser

those are artifical confusing and random names, also not really handy for the alphabetical sorting on market or in inventory
There are two suggestions to beat some logic in there that doesnt need to memorize the whole database:

Streamlined with Robot and building names
(T1  )Standard Medium HCL Laser MK 1
(T1+)Standard Medium HCL Laser MK 2
(T2  )Advanced Medium HCL Laser MK 1
(T2+)Advanced Medium HCL Laser MK 2
(T3  )HiTech Medium HCL Laser MK 1
(T3+)HiTech Medium HCL Laser MK 2

or
(T1  )Phisker 10  PW HCL Laser
(T1+)Phisker 10+PW HCL Laser
(T2  )Phisker 20  PW HCL Laser
(T2+)Phisker 20+PW HCL Laser
(T3  )Phisker 30  PW HCL Laser
(T3+)Phisker 30+PW HCL Laser

even
(T1  )Thelotec-Grazier I.  HCL Laser
(T1+)Thelotec-Grazier II. HCL Laser
(T2  )Thelotec-Iocle    I.  HCL Laser
(T2+)Thelotec-Iocle    II. HCL Laser
(T3  )Thelotec-Slicer   I.   HCL Laser
(T3+)Thelotec-Slicer   II.  HCL Laser
-> small hcl laser already got two thelotec versions wink

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

Annihilator wrote:

Streamlined with Robot and building names
(T1  )Standard Medium HCL Laser MK 1
(T1+)Standard Medium HCL Laser MK 2
(T2  )Advanced Medium HCL Laser MK 1
(T2+)Advanced Medium HCL Laser MK 2
(T3  )HiTech Medium HCL Laser MK 1
(T3+)HiTech Medium HCL Laser MK 2

O yes please. *** the names none can read/remember.

Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

Annihilator wrote:

WALL OF TEXT! D'FAQ TL;DR

This change it's cool but... It's like don't fix things which AREN'T broken (check armour tank and ERP nerf). Instead rebuilding whole tech tree go and add more modules to make it wider. Spend your time on new content instead rerolling whole game. kthx bye back to my cave.

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

But Anni, I like confusing names I never took time to remember but look at the module icon to figure out if it is T1~T4.

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

Reinventing the wheel since 2010 because it's too confusing to look at the color-coded T1/T2/T3/T4 items.

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

yeah, thats because you see the color code on your equipped weapons, or at the market tree.

or even on my production list

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

Because right click -> information is a challenging physical operation. roll

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Syndic wrote:

Because right click -> information is a challenging physical operation. roll

right clicking a turret on the grid-plan and setting it to shoot blue's takes the same physical operation, yet you havent been able to do fuuu

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

Difference being I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel and waste development time just because I'm not interested in indulging whims. lol

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

not that discussion again.

please, dont let the room cleaning service waste time with cleaning the room, instead of fixing bugs and implementing new features.

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

It has nothing to do with room cleaning, it's deciding it's smart completely redo the foundation of the structure after it's already been built and sold.

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Re: [The Gamma proposal] Tiered Equip changes

I, too, am confused by this new structure. It's not clear what is old with new names and what is or may be new entirely. With all the other current PRIORITIES I do not see how this is important right now.

I'm kinda sold on the PVE revamp for newer players coming into the game. PVPers need carebears to be happy healthy and at least feeling safe.

And of course MARKETING!

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