Re: Market... or lack thereof.

Lucius Marcellus wrote:

And if the problem is t2/t3 availability, I already stated that DTF will start providing the most common ones very soon.

This.

127 (edited by adriaans 2011-11-03 01:16:33)

Re: Market... or lack thereof.

BugSplat wrote:
adriaans wrote:
SmokeyIndustries wrote:

If you played Eve, and you played this game, you should know that 1 person can have a very significant impact on the game. If you've followed at all the history of this game you'd know that for certain *cough* styx *cough*

Played eve for more or less 7 years now, so yes I know, but in eve one guy effected the market is another question.. possible yes, but deffo not that easy to manage smile

I hope I can manage to actually affect both the market and the pvp, it would be a fantastic thing to use for when I do my masters wink

I always play the longterm game, don't expect to see me everywhere in a few days tongue

I am sadly not too familiar with the history of this game yet, however I read and remember everything I ever come across, if you want to throw some links/summaries my way, I'd be very grateful smile

Unfortunately this game will not be able to provide you with a great deal of information for your research except at how a poorly seeded market can hamper a game severely.  You will have zero effect on PvP; that is almost entirely internalized.  Very few PvP folks would expect to be competitive with what little they can find on the open market.

As stated before; limited visibility of items due to corp limited listings, throttle market growth.

Sure, there's in-corp sales in Eve, but the market itself is transparent; there is no way to limit sales to corp members only.  So in-corp stuff has considerably less effect on the overall market, even when the game first launched.


My research will extend significantly more than just that and is not limited to only Perpetuum, it encompasses more or less all gameplay aspects AND the community, other games including is eve, world of tanks and everquest with the focus being perpetuum and eve (though with eve I already have so much I can spend most time on Perpetuum).

Considering I HAVE changed the way pvp was done in eve on 2 1/2 occasions (1: LSE t1 cruisers, you may remember that getting some popularity at one point, useful even today. 2: You may/or not have heard of Angils coalition (a coalition composed of a few small/mid sized corps), WE were the inventors of the drake gangs that months later rose into insane popularity, the 0.0 alliances got it from us, at least 4 of them took ''holiday'' in our 'home' systems and we quite litarally kicked their *** with far less guys and far less isk. 2.5 : we changed the Metropolis (middle section mostly) region from a no mans land with occasional blobs and camps into a an eventual heaven for anyone who wanted to live in low-sec. Towards the end we had grown it to almost 1.5k members. Best of all, it was a perfect working democratic coalition where the members where getting all the riches. Sadly due to RL issues for some of the leaders and burn outs for others, we split apart and it is once again a void there. Point is, we changed something, we did something that no ones really done before, heck we even held of 0.0 alliances (the only time we had help were when they used supercaps or cap fleets, PL was nearby and very happy to get cap fights tongue))

Economically... you have no idea how much you can affect in eve with enough funds ^^


If it can be pulled off in eve, which i believe would be the harder one to do it in, what can possibly stop me from doing so here except time and myself?

All you gotta do, is get people engaged (sometimes easier said than done), the effect then comes by itself and that's the part that's often unpredictable, and perfect research material smile (though the way to get there is also).


Due to internal markets compared to eve, affecting the economy almost has to tie in with a pvp effort, which makes it more complex than eve (at least with so few players, many being in self sufficent corps), which means changing both is a possibility if pulled off, as you have to effect both, which means everyone else has to adapt/change. The question is, how much will it affect it?

I'm what you could consider an extreme long term tactician, *everything* no matter how insignificant leaves a mark, if it remains....




ps. did read the dev blogs, searched around a bit for the names mentioned etc, good reads smile  (though I sure hope one can affect a game significantly without cheating).

ps2. Why there no market specific forum (for discussion, not sell/buying)?

Re: Market... or lack thereof.

Regarding empty markets.. I emptied Baphomet supply on Alpha islands today...and lost them ^^

Anyone wanna put 1-2 more up? (Not going to beta as afaik their all pvp, and non fitted mech is hardly gonna survive that.. and I'm well, fairly broke now tongue)

Re: Market... or lack thereof.

adriaans wrote:

Regarding empty markets.. I emptied Baphomet supply on Alpha islands today...and lost them ^^

Anyone wanna put 1-2 more up? (Not going to beta as afaik their all pvp, and non fitted mech is hardly gonna survive that.. and I'm well, fairly broke now tongue)

huh? there are still ~60 baphos on alpha2 market - what are you talking about?

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Re: Market... or lack thereof.

Annihilator wrote:
adriaans wrote:

Regarding empty markets.. I emptied Baphomet supply on Alpha islands today...and lost them ^^

Anyone wanna put 1-2 more up? (Not going to beta as afaik their all pvp, and non fitted mech is hardly gonna survive that.. and I'm well, fairly broke now tongue)

huh? there are still ~60 baphos on alpha2 market - what are you talking about?


Isn't Tellesis and Shinjalar beta islands?

6 new ones on alpha though, so thanks whoever added those smile

131 (edited by Lucius Marcellus 2011-11-05 20:46:51)

Re: Market... or lack thereof.

adriaans wrote:
Annihilator wrote:
adriaans wrote:

Regarding empty markets.. I emptied Baphomet supply on Alpha islands today...and lost them ^^

Anyone wanna put 1-2 more up? (Not going to beta as afaik their all pvp, and non fitted mech is hardly gonna survive that.. and I'm well, fairly broke now tongue)

huh? there are still ~60 baphos on alpha2 market - what are you talking about?


Isn't Tellesis and Shinjalar beta islands?

6 new ones on alpha though, so thanks whoever added those smile

No, they're Alpha-2 islands, meaning tougher alpha zones. No PvP so there's no real danger for the purpose of collecting a bot.

Re: Market... or lack thereof.

Lucius Marcellus wrote:
adriaans wrote:
Annihilator wrote:

huh? there are still ~60 baphos on alpha2 market - what are you talking about?


Isn't Tellesis and Shinjalar beta islands?

6 new ones on alpha though, so thanks whoever added those smile

No, they're Alpha-2 islands, meaning tougher alpha zones. No PvP so there's no real danger for the purpose of collecting a bot.

Ah I see, learn something new everyday smile