"DEV Calvin wrote:

    At the moment (and this is subject to change) we do not plan on applying the new character features to old characters."

This is a very poor show. 

You freely admit that it was "unfair" to players putting points into combat for industrial purposes... the very least you can to is to alow them players to re-assign skills they put to 5 back into industry..

But your basically saying "har har - tough luck, you spent your money now its ours"

You made a mistake, and you will make more.. what players will examine is how you correct those mistakes, this is the first step in the wrong direction.

So all combat and industry extensions will be reimbursed then? How will you determine which extnsions an industry toon pumped to combat vs a combat mission and which ones a combat to on pumped to run industry missions. Your better off just reseting everyone's EP and giving us the thirty days. Its a fair and level play field and prevents the server from having to do a million account resets that everyone will crunch out prior to release so their characters are under the thirty day mark.

Which extensions.  Exactly ?

Give a small grace period for people to tidy their characters as a "transition" phase to the new system. 1 week should be sufficient in my opinion.

I must admit though, I find the Zoom's Cosby quote quite apt

I might be missing a few beats here, and if so excuse me, but why would all combat and industry extensions get reimbursed?

The only thing planned to change is that combat assignments won't affect facility relations anymore. The only extensions affecting relation gain are the Tactics/Logistics/Industrial specialization, and these are the ones which can be reimbursed when we make that change.

All combat extentions affect ones ability to do combat missions, and hence gain relations

Thanks for the explanation. Thing is, when they did those combat missions with the help of those EPs, they did not only gain relations, but NIC and loot as well. Should we then take that away? It's not such a straightforward issue, but we'll discuss it internally as well.

DEV Calvin has already conceeded this point earlier in this thread, do not know why we are discussing it again.

Well we could firesale nia, and have everyone start over from day one just with giant EP pools. let the hate posts flow.

Seriously though, I am sure the right decision will be made.my concerns at least were voiced

New reset system should be accessible by all players. I don't see it being an issue with the Preset level 5 limitation. Implement something that would limit it's usage like mentioned above or whatever it takes. Most of the new players (which I would venture saying is the larger portion of your player base now?) are in favor of this and it is probably in your best interest to do whatever it takes to keep them until they are invested in the game.

Especially with swtor on the forefront, catch my drift...

And yes this benefits me but I am speaking objectively.

Being new in a game that has been out for awhile, I was able to ask many questions when creating my characters.  One of the things I learned, just a few weeks ago, was that I would have to do combat missions with my indy character in order to get my rep up at facilities so that I could be viable in the marketplace.  And this was true.  I tried to tailor my indy character to a strictly indy fit; however, I took a sliver of my overall EP to enhance my combat skills.  Now the game is different, and I have skills I no longer need.

The fair thing to do is let every character change their ep investments.  It does not matter if they made nic or benefited in any way from these investments, it does not matter if they started yesterday or 7 months ago.  What matters is that every person has the ability to create a character that best fits their needs for enjoyment of the game.  Mistakes aside, if the game changes, the ability to change character choices does to.

When playing poker, you don't make Jacks wild in the middle of a hand.  You need to let each player reset their cards if you're going to change the game.  And it doesn't matter how much they made in previous hands, that was a different game.  If a ran a poker game where I changed the game in the middle of each hand and made the players keep their cards, I'm not going to have too many players at my table.

Based off of your suggestions I think there should be another few more EP trees under the production side... 1 for each faction that lowers the material ratio and time efficiency for faction specific items ie.

[xFaction production specialization]-each level of this extentions grants bonuses to lowered mat ratio and production time for xFaction light and assault bots and (x faction) small guns and a few other mods like a specific hardner and ERP

[Advanced xFaction production specialization]-each level of this extentions grants bonuses to lowered mat ratio and production time for xFaction lMECH and H MECH and MED (xfaction) guns and a few other mods like a specific hardner and ERP

This would effectivly give the older toons a specialty and really old toon will have cross trained all, Or become a master x faction producer for their corp.

Numq would have all numq bots and em guns, em ammo and a certain resist.
Thel would have all thel bots, lasers, energy cells, and a certain resist.
Pel would have all pel bots, launchers, missiles , and a certain resist.
Indy would have all indy bots, indy mods, Miner charges, the last resist.

you could incorprate a few more extentions along this line to include E-wars items and Engineering items. Just a thought I know true indy folks would like these ideas.