Maybe a good idea for the energy credits/currency incoming. We have the reset account thingy but this would be really nice for ppl trying to adapt a corp rooster.

Nope, "we have this op we need all blue bots, excellent i'll just buy some NIC off ebay and respec"

There are no wrong decisions, in 6 months time they'll be some patch and green will the fotm.  Even i have a green account!

Jelan, i was not thinking of going blue, i just think 1 reset with only 1 character slot on an account except some ep-less scouts, small mistakes are expensive.

I agree with u, the going blue part would become a problem, but if that happened the devs would even have more reason to balance things out  (if all go blue, then something must be wrong with the balance of blues wich is not the point i want to discuss in this topic?)

In every game there are sometimes "unbalances" and it will change over time just as you say. /agree

My thing only is, i would like to try out other races, other focusses. If you make a mistake deciding on the way you want to go, u have to pay deerly for it, and for a loong time.

And about ebay, some may think about it, but i hope mayority doesn't.

Its something I would use too, but for industry as it would be cheaper then supporting multiple accounts. Get Indy 8 Riveler setup for Titan ore, switch to HDT, Sterm, ect until lots of minerals stored up. Respec to max refining, respec to max RE to make CT's, respec to max factory extensions and let'r rip. Even if there were a time delay between respec's that would align very well with the time it takes to acutaly do the functions, other than refining which is Instant, but there's only 1 skill so technically I could just tag it into the last ore gathering respec.

Heck, I have enough EP I could probably do the non-mining part with just 1 paid respec. And then 1 more to respec into combat and blow all them bots up )

Please, no paid resets. The game is too young, so if you made mistake in your build, wait few monthes and fix it. Meanwhile you can use your current extensions forfun.

Ral... I'm against paid resets, the example I gave would be expensive, but not terribly so if this game reaches the size of Eve where you can get a couple billion isk for $30. Or even to current corps with 1.2 Billion NIC just floating around, and that are producing 1000's of bots per week.

No, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea for players that just want to experience new content, but the possiblities for large scale abuse are abundant.... and I would probably do something like I posted and find a way to make it profitable.

There are lots of posts about EP. My general view is that EP is just simple, 1 pt per minute. You get it, you spend it. Buying, selling, trading, adjusting speed, and any other operation on EP just complicates it. I think the simplicity is what makes it such a target

Play the game, get EP.

If you had to force me to choose something though, I would say add a 'preview' step, which allows you to add a level and see the effect, but it isn't applied until you click again. Or to keep with the topic, a paid 'revert' for the last skill point added, at x nic/EP, but full resets, no.

Edit: Just a side note about cost, there are TIME based skills, for getting things done faster, that a large corp may need where NIC and material costs are no object.

Unfortunately, it's not.  It's *pay* for the game, wait, and get the EP. 

Playing nets you very little by comparison (even less after several patches).  My interest in game wanes more by the day and my g/f has been actively encouraging me to play something else.

There are a lot more active accounts than there are people playing them; it's why there is a brief population spike with every patch.

EDIT: As for your preview step mention, it does beg the question, why isn't there an official, up to date planning tool?  Why can't I test builds on the website or in game even like you can in every other MMO?

I do support the respecs but I think they should have like a 90 day timer on them.  Not having one discourages people from playing the game who make mistakes or change minds about what they want to do (example: Say I mine for a while and decide I don't want to do that cause it's boring, I want to play combat but my only option is to start from scratch either with a new account or an alt? Meh. I guess I just won't renew my sub).

The game doesn't revolve around EP.

You play to gain material wealth and experience, the skill extensions work as a 'small' gating system for some items and bots, but generally they just incrementally improve your performance.

Once I learned how to duck walk the NPC's, the only thing changed is I lock them from a little farther and kill them just a little faster.

As I noted above, you'll totally gimp your character if you try to change from combat to indy (or vice versa) because of the EP cost reduction you get from your initial corp/spark, so you have to reset the whole character and lose any research or reputation.

I did the reset on this agent, and it took me a few weeks to get motivated to go back out and get my reputation back up. Don't underestimate the 'pain' a reset can cause, the longer you play the more you effort you lose with the reset.

OMG... now I'm hungry for pumpkin chocolate chip cookies for some reason.

Again, I'm playing devil's advocate as I think this is a solution looking for a problem, but I really don't think there would be anything wrong with paid EP resets granted that they are stupid expensive and possibly also have a cooldown.  The only compelling argument I've heard is that they would lessen the gravity of training a skill, and that is valid.  But it would still be a big deal to reverse it.

No, sorry. Like Jelan said no FOTM cookie cutters we get enough of that from the populace.

I was just going by the Perp Planner.

Take Indy robot control to 10 with

no Attributes - 140 Days 15 hours of EP
Optimized (all Industrial) - 91Days 31 Mins of EP
All Military - 109 Days 16hours 30 minutes of EP

Basic Factory Calibration to 10

no Attributes - 78 Days of EP
Optimized (all Industrial) - 44 Days of EP
All Military - 69 Days of EP

Yes, going to 10 is extreme its just to highlight the differences.

I agree there is some good overlap in areas, this is to help make the indy player have some PVP role and for PVP to help support indy. But when you get down to specializing in either direction, its those big ticket items that will have you spending many extra days worth of EP.

Gimp is maybe too strong, but your going to be behind other players that did specialize. The difference here is that those EP are acutally wasted, because you used more than you could have to get the same extension if you had worked within your speciality.

That said, if your plan requires you to spend a little into an 'off' spec extension, there certainly isn't anything wrong with that. But going combat and then trying to drive a Lithus MK II is flushing a month of EP down the drain.