Celebro wrote:

Gremrod, people are not going to take this seriously with your corp tag. Good ending and I agree with most. But calling the community poisonous won't win you many friends. I am certainly trying hard to put my POV across, on what in IMO is best for the game, because I care about it, unlike your corp.

Well if I am calling the community poisonous and I am part of the community I am calling me out too.

It is up to the individual to look past my corp tag and realize the other stuff I have done for the community and game. If they can't look past it then there is nothing I can do about it.

Oh well, I'm not really sure if the message can be heard through the amount of heavy political propaganda going on, that aims to benefit certain individuals/corporations/playstyles. However, good post anyway Grem, I agree to it, especially to the following parts:

Since the game is developed with a lot of input from the community it is hard at times to see the vision since the developers have not written down that vision for the game. If they have one they have not shared it with the community. So at the current time different parts of the community are at odds with one another and the community is at odds with the developers
The developers need to convey their vision for the future of Perpetuum. Once this is done I think a lot of the poison seen in the communities posts will subside and the game will start to see successful strides.

A LOT of companies in many different areas of business suffer from exact same problems, that lead to stagnation. In gamedev industry it can especially be seen, when for example developers might be masters of code, graphics, arts, etc. etc., however lack necessary knowledge in business strategic management and economics (as it is still a business after all).

TBH, on AC's place I'd start proper reformation first from the office and management, rather than performing changes in the game itself. At least this is how it seems to me from player's perspective, as obviously we are pretty much blind at what happens inside and which direction is the game headed.

PS: it would be nice if at least THIS THREAD could be kept clean without same 3-4 doom preachers going around the forum and mentioning/implying same things in each and every one of their posts, with offensive and political subtext.

And the poison I speak of in your post here in this thread.

Celebro wrote:

Jita wrote:

if you dont want to own the game what possible reason would you have for putting three bases on every gamma.

This ^ and lol at forgetting the extra L on Ville's name, priceless.

Well there is another way to look at it. If you have something to do with all the areas (islands in this game) you are bound to be part of everything in game. PvP, resources, battles etc.

They can remove sparks tomorrow

We'll still be on your comms following you around and making your in-game life miserable wherever you go

EOD

Jelan wrote:

Ville wrote:

Example is me jumping between Tell, shin and hersh managing my market orders.

Me jumping to ics alpha to help new players with missions. 

Spending more time pveing while waiting for a formup instead of logistically move to location

Being able to hop back to a station and load up a sequer with stuff I may or may not have forgot

Being able to hop into the action instead of missing out 

Helps with doing missions.

All this says is "its all about me" and you clearly haven't got a clue

If one person can choose to do everything all the time then you remove the requirement or need for many other people.  Our wars in EvE used to take weeks of planning and logistics (back in early 2000, don't know what its like now)

Shifting sales goods to multiple trade hubs, not a chance, too time consuming which enabled others to compete in different markets.

If you weren't soo self-centred and blinkered you'd see the bigger picture over your damn pudgy eyes!

Maybe you never noticed there were only two to three industrialist seeding the market to begin with and most of the time they move to where ever the goods are being off loaded on the market.  What happened is that numerous other Alpha 2s were being neglected and some even had less on them than Alpha 1 islands.

Rex Amelius wrote:

I just keep asking for what I think is right, not politically expedient. But I am one voice and others in 77CIR may not think Sparks are an issue, or that nerfing them won't make a difference. It's debatable, but I know what side of that debate I have been on since day one.

But despite a few voices of opposition its Dev Zoom that is the problem on Sparks, not 77CIR

DEV Zoom wrote:

Sorry but we refuse to see spark teleport as an issue. Or if it is, it's at least equally helping the game.

http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/post/103058/#p103058

~helping the game~ how sir? Please give me an example or two...

Example is me jumping between Tell, shin and hersh managing my market orders.

Me jumping to ics alpha to help new players with missions. 

Spending more time pveing while waiting for a formup instead of logistically move to location

Being able to hop back to a station and load up a sequer with stuff I may or may not have forgot

Being able to hop into the action instead of missing out 

Helps with doing missions.