Shinain wrote:Arga wrote:Shin,
The point: The bulk of PVP will always be between cheap bots. There will always be a bot that players are drooling over to drive, but will not be used in general PVP because they are too damn expensive.
You missunderstood the point about the playing time. Playing time = progress time (+ EPs for just paying the fee). But i think youll need casuals...a lot of casuals and they should also have reasonable target within this game.
A side note to the side note: Cant understand the thing about WOW. Its a completely different but very great game. Im playing it since beta and from the start in a progressive raid guild. They found a great way between pvp and pve, casuals and pro gamers (and yes even for Blizz with multiple teams and high budget it took 2-3 years to get there...and i think that you dont have to reinvent the wheel over and over again).
You played WOW and didnt like it? Ok...but dont be that ignorant..others like it.
You played WOW but didnt managed to get to an serous playing? Well...dont be ignorant.
You never played WOW?....aeh...dont be ignorant.
I don't think this game or its developers are really worried about keeping casual players.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/p … 24#3410224
Both of you are right. You because the game makes griefing too easy, and while we want it to be a harsh world, it's still just a game.
giving the dev's the benefit of the doubt, they know that making a harsh world is going to keep thier numbers low, because it does make it really difficult for players who aren't serious about putting in an effort.
Look around on the fourms, and you'll not only see me defending WoW but raging a little at its usage. I play WoW, I progrssion raid, and I like the game. People are lazy though, and instead of typing out what they mean, they just say go play wow.
So not to be lazy, and in the context that the devs are not looking to make a simple game;
Wow is a mass market game. They do as much as they can to balance the game for serious and casual players. They add little aura's into ICC that slowly make the Raid easier so that progression raiders can epeen about beating it but sill let the casual players enjoy the content later.
I don't think you're going to see that in this game; hence the continual and irritating reponse of Go Play WoW when agents bring up the issue of watering down the game or making it friendlier to casual players. I don't like it, a better meme would be "Get serious", but serious is harder to spell than wow so I doubt it will catch on.
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I'd have liked to respond to the actual game issues you had, but everytime I tried you changed subjects.