Every new robot wave theres a change so im betting balance is in progress.
Without all weapon tuning fits people will have to figure out other modules into head slots - wanted variety? There You go.
Also since overall DPS will lower significantly now - maybe tanking rather than ehp will become viable?

But back to topic this is a very valid concern.
Lasers get +30% acc, EM get +50% and firearms +100%. Were lasers considered underpowered so the change touched them the least?
Those acc consumption changes are too steep. Single weapon tuning brings around 16.21% DPS increase each. Becouse the 7.5% RoF increase it was already more consuming on acc the more tunings were installed.
Since the acc penalty is cumulative it gets ridiculous very quick. Alot of times one have to consider accumulator efficiency - to spread it among both tank and DPS. Lets make a quick gauss gun comparison of putting more tunings on:
DPS -   ACC 
100  -   100
116  -   150
135  -   225
157  -   337.5
182  -   506.3
It is basically inefficient to put any magnometic weapon tunings on.

The accumulator consumption increase should be same for all weapon types. Firearms might need an increase in acc usage for that. Acc efficiency shouldn't be suffering as much.

Lets consider a scenario where all weapons get +20% acc per tuning:
100 - 100
116 - 120
135 - 144
157 - 172.8
182 - 207.36
This look closer even tho true ACC-DMG ratio would still be more affected. RoF will increase consumption of ACC as well so with +7.5% at the 4th tuner we would get 33.5 increase in damage per shot with over double acc cost - Personally I would still consider it a bad deal - but more bareable.

My take on hit dispersion and surface size.

Assumptions:
- 2m hit dispersion weapoin will hit 1m surface size target 50% of time
- same DPS weapon with double optimal range is twice as effective.
- falloff = 50% of optimal range value.

No plates (no changes to hit surface of target) and no weapon stabilisers we currently have:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ … sp=sharing

My proposition:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ … sp=sharing

Numbers are a bit more balanced now. Missiles are not very accurate here for their special evasive properties. There is also a side note on demob but it is just a loose uncalculated concept for now.

Velocity nexus might seem like a must but its CPU requirements makes it so one have to downgrade tight fits. Going that road we would want to remove lightweight frames next. We all know how cruicial speed is and fit around it. Navigation was an EP thing only that ended up being the skill everyone does to lvl10 before anything else so just a barrier new players had to jump over first.

If "dumb sh*t" is being careless of losing a bot (which I have too many now) then I would prefer to play a game where people prefer to engage. Instead you people prefer to cover in stations and ONLY come out when in advantage after checking all you spies and sh*t. In my times it was called camping and was considered being a wanker - but there is nothing wrong with being a wanker nowadays it seems so dont get me wrong.

600rep and 1b is done in 16-20h with less than 4k ep. And where are all the newbies now? I logged in a few times and 80% of it general chat was less than 4 people. And I was on my own on it once.

But back on topic:

The game is p2w the moment it allows cash for currency.
The game is p2w the moment it allows alts.
The game is p2w the moment it allows more EP for cash (booster).

If you think people will join an empty game and play/wait for xx years to get to the goodies - you are wrong. EP is a resource same as every other one - saddens me people dont realize it (or do realize it and hug to it as their only resource not obtainable by others claiming their superior "gameplay skill").

OK I am literally sick and tired of Your all "vets" COWARDICE! You are simply too scared that some new player can come to the game and surpass you after You loose your EP advantage and it's all down to skills. So you just cover in your little sandbox huggin tightly your shiny robots and only allowing others to play with the crippled ones.

"The game has a nice mechanics similar to Eve with Mechs instead of space ships. Unfortunatelly even with both DLC's you are still far away from reaching the full potential of even the smallest robots. This only changes after simply waiting (and we are talking years here) and there is literally NOTHING You can do to change it"

This goes to my steam review for the game. And it is all true.

A. Glad we can agree, thing is I would like them to be more of a factor over EP advantage.
B. They certainly arn't "free" when you have to pay for it - and if it would be obtainable via gameplay then its no more P2W than getting 1billion NIC for a tenner.
C. The whole idea is borrowed from it. Trying to twist it to not look like a simple "Hey, lets have skill injectors/extractors as well". But hey, im all down to stop comparing.

  EP gap isn't a problem for my Mesmers - I've spent nearly 2 years heavily focusing EP for just that, to the point of being confident about using it (with various results, but if you're here to discuss my personal affairs - bugger off). The problem is variety - if I want similar results for other robots it has a "Coming out sometime next year" dreadfull advertisement sticked to it. How many more games do you know with a time wall blocking any character progress?
  Also as I already said I know people who left becouse of it. And alot of them. I only log in for a couple minutes myself now, not much to do with HM except for grinding NIC. Those few minutes a day we had encounters where heavies are viable is not enough to keep my interest in. Small gand of heavies (2-3 robots - the largest encounter I've seen for a whole month of trying to be active in PvP was 6v6 so I guess it aint "small gang") is too easily counterable and therefore costwise unjustified.
  And BTW some people do not want to play tackle, EW or logi - it's an alts job.

Are You saying more EP is "an I win button" ?
Clearly Eve is doing it wrong becouse 30.000 online is no match for 50.

You are wrong. Look up skill injectors and extractors.

I dont use miner alts, so only needed 10 injectors for maxed out command ship.

It didn't even take an hour to be honest. Around a hundred clicks did it.

Getting a bot is the easy part. Anyway, if you lessen the 300k ep by decent harvesting skills then its even less of a combat ready pilot. Also heavy mech makes around 150mil/h on alpha but not decent - a good one.

   Noone got kicked out of ETHOS solely for loosing any number of bots.

   Never had to wait for 6 months for anything in Eve. It was 2 maximum for learning skills when those were still a thing. Probably becouse there always were large number of players with similar SP levels = activity. With our numbers you're down to whatever is happening at the moment. Creating multiple alts partially solves that problem, but is it really necessary? Also I was looking at one of my alts in Eve today and thought - "Wouldn't it be nice for him to fly a command ship" and I did so an hour and 5mil SP later. Now if that would be equivalent to 7 month old 14mil SP character we get with DLC that would be an excuse of a command ship instead of a real thing (unless were talking off grid boosting).

   Whats so scary about players having more EP at the start? Maybe you need an option to trade EP for credits but only when above 500k EP? Or you simply want to play by yourselves?

120k+140k+40k = 300k 

Where am I wrong exactly?

Also 7-8 skills in a mech makes you competent, not competitive. Competent is not good enough for 1v1 situations.

I am also not talking about huge changes to the game mechanics. More DLC would do it or an option to transmute credits into EP. Dont tell me programming that is so much time consuming.

My 12 cents.

1. Agreed, more variety would be nice - but too much specialisation and were killing the soloing aspect. I would like to see troiar changed tho - move 2 hand slots into head.
2. Certainly - tho I would love to see some of those without possibility to build on them and really hard  NPC spawns (and possibly rewarding?) also - artificing anyone?
3.  We definitely need an island in the middle of nia connecting 3 main islands (to compensate for spark teleports) and if there would be a terminal it would become a main trading hub in game (with current state of market we dont need it being split in 3)
4. Disagreeing on this one. Its hard enough to find PvP anyways. And one actually can acces them from alpha. Their "separation" also makes them more avaiable to newer players due to low traffic.
5. A small number of field terminals would do it.
6. Remove the demob resistance on plates and make separate mod for demob res. Assaults would not have to fit oversized plates then.
7. This would only create smurf/alt corps to do it instead and create confusion.
8. Beta doesnt have a reliable noralgis - one needs to "ninja" plant it. The same way non corp people mine epriton on beta.
9. As much as I would love that myself I think it should remain a tad end-game.
10. My thoughts in answer no.3
11. +1
12.  Make it based on Total NPC kills on island per day (simplified) granting bonuses for each tier, and reducing 1 tier every 8:00 a.m. serwer time. Indywiduals could also get achievements(titles?) for clearing hordes of NPC granting them bonuses (PvE only or else its a requirement instead of possibility).