Ville wrote:

Celebro wrote:

That way of thinking is why we don't have a market.

No.  The lack of producers and the fact there's literally been 20 dudes playing for the past year is why we don't have a market.

There are loads of producers, I'm one of them, but if you can make a billion nic a day doing missions why would I sell goods on the market? What do I need the nic for?

I think Zoom thinks 'everything is fine' anyway. Wasted breath.

Altera wrote:

I still don't see how open stations would benefit anyone but the gate/station game player.  I still think you want to just play station dock/undock games and gank new, unlucky or inattentive players.
I still don't see the demand for it, I have sat in TMB, ABT and I don't see new players (or anyone much) running around there.

You cant effectively live out of a beta terminal because its too easy to scout and you just get ganked. This problem would exist in any open terminal, your right. The balance to that is you would have to do it to 4 terminals on three beta islands. The best you could do is target an individual station or two.

The advantages on the other hand are:

Beta industry is possible for smaller / underpowered corps. Without the risk of station locking you can move CT’s and your mineral stocks

Under siege corps can pick their fights (more vulnerable to gank / less vulnerable to eviction)

You don’t need to either bend the knee or join the winning coalition to have a station – you just need to be able to control the territory. This encourages emergent gameplay, the breaking of coalitions and multi faction warfare

Visitors have a place to dock and operate from without the need to ‘own’ somewhere

There is a clear progression of ownership – Beta 2 becomes important if corps want station locking

All stations become important – the need to defend and then lock causes a lot of empty stations that nobody uses – and sometimes whole empty islands

Full ownership is no longer possible – the best you can hope for is to control the territory.

The problem is lwf only fits are demobbed by a castel mk2 to nothing. For this reason everyone double plates everything. Balance demobs rather than add a bandaid on a broken mechanic.