Ore prices are slowly stabilising, and prices have generally gone a fair bit since release of patch. Further, I have reduced my margins further on all bots.

Currently the t4 lwf + shield gen is as much of a no brainer for any alpha hauler, so I'm not really sympathising with that. However, outside alpha hauling these trade-offs will be very important. Anyhow, I'd much prioritise a proper freighter rather than a cargo expander, so on that point we agree.

If we need another hauler, it would be a super-freighter that can carry insane amounts, and not yet another small-cargo bot.

Agree that fragmentation is a serious issue and definitely needs more attention from the DEVs.

Great change DEV - keep the high end bots expensive but let mechs be accessible. I've updated my prices in the shop and on the market accordingly.

Assaults will now go for around 1m on market and combat mechs 3.5m, looks quite balanced to me.

Indeed, but as I said, seeding everything at 10NIC/per wouldn't be free either. It's a dangerous line.

No, but even if a fraction of all NIC was used for this, then no one would have to mine Noralgis for the next few years. But if you honestly believe what you say here, might as well just seed everything! 10 NIC! Doesn't matter, right? As NIC will never be infinite we will never get infinite stuff? Just loads of it and no industry or market, but who cares?

For those that seriously think reporting a clear exploit publicly is a bad thing, go talk about it here:

http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/foru … dialogues/

Arga, once again you're just wildly speculating on noralgis price, there's also very strong reasons why it could increase (i.e. reduced yields and huge demand boost). Hence, all those words mean very little.

Hear, hear!

Also, by not clawing this back, ASAP, you set an extremely bad precedence.

lol, allow me...

Briochit/Hydrobenol is barely traded at all, the average is massively misleading (if we assume the price of epriton is 5 per, then a price of 500 for briochit assumes a price of 5 per for Noralgis under perfect refining).

You should use the implied priced from the raw materials, then the price of briochit is roughly 3600 (assuming noralgis at 65)and hydrobenol 500 (this assumes perfect refining which is not realistic, so in reality implied prices are higher).

Then getting 10 hydrobenol and 10 briochit per 1000 ammo (quite poor refining) leads to (36,000+5,000=) 41,000 NIC. You paid 21,000 NIC for the materials. That's a huge gain (especially since it is in reality higher as I had conservative assumptions). If this is abused with good refining it's like seeding Noralgis at 15-20 per element.

Seriously, GO AFTER THE ACCOUNTS INVOLVED ASAP AND CLAW IT BACK. You're committing a huge mistake if you downplay the importance of this and no one in their right mind could think this is not an exploit.

And as other has pointed out, why can seeded items be refined anyways? Seems like asking for this to happen.