F-NAVY is cowering out.  M2S is falling to pieces.  NEX and TOG are going to try and hold onto the scraps I hope.  So where does this leave us...

Crimson Imperium Reborn, Roving Guns, CHAOS, Immortal Legacy, Rue Tang Clan, Bob Squad, Regulators, The Republic, The Hardened Steel, HYDRA, christwhoelseamimissing?  I'm aware some of these corps might be inactive, but you get my point.

VERSUS

62nd Mobile Infantry and War Dec.

Rest of server:  Please, man up.  And for the love of the celestial powers, stop bemoaning the size of SovNov, they are allowed to do whatever they want, just like you are.  The lack of you doing anything about them is on every single one of you that complain about them but don't fit up a damn bot and go fight.  I know we have our peaceable industrial players and all, but J.C., where are all the other PVPers in this PVP sandbox game?  Is it really just going to be a two faction game? 

SovNov: At least we have each other

Tiggus: Nah, there's a few with regular activity, there's just a lot of hubbub going on right now.

One to two second faster cycle time is huge.

With hundreds of thousands of EP, a MK2 Troiar can be a total nightmare, but come on--a MK1?  MK1 shields aren't THAT good, and under pretty much any circumstance a Troiar is markedly slower than any Intakt/Chameleon and has laughable demobbing range compared to the other two because of extension point priorities.  And are you not sending counter tackles out?

3-400k EP MK2's I can agree need to be looked at(lets face it though, its really the fact that T4 evasive modules mixed with shields on light EWAR is a nightmare to fight AND counter-neut).  But regular factory churned Troiars, even T3-T4 MK1s aren't that hard to kill, and they certainly aren't hard to counter tackle.

Tell you what, I don't even need numbers, just give a good breakdown of a fight where a tackle fit MK1 couldn't be killed and it should probably be pretty easy to tell you what was going wrong on your end.

This is a weird issue, one I bounce back and forth on.  You're definitely making a choice to play the oddball out going Pelistal(intentionally or unintentionally).

I've got two main issues with the OP though:
1. You're already preempting a discussion by stating it's about weapon related extensions only, which it can't be--there's a lot more going on with EP "values" and distribution than just weapon enhancing extensions(especially for greens).

2. You're assigning an EP value for extensions that doesn't actually exist--it's your own subjective feeling on it's value vs other colors and using it in a balance type of discussion on turrets and launchers.

Yes, we cannot cross train as easily as blues/yellows can(or at all honestly if we're being effective with EP).  So yes, that gives you less bang for your buck if we're talking about one extension giving you multiple benefits.  But one thing you have to keep in mind is I don't think the Devs want to balance yellow and blue strictly around the idea that all yellows and blues are cross training.

But as a green player I don't think it should be viewed as a given we're supposed to get a certain multiracial benefit out of our EP.  I see where you're going though, launcher skills only apply to launchers, and there's only 1 type of launcher that gets benefit from these EP(sans size differences).

A big benefit of having such a restriction in our non ability to cross train is it indirectly forces your EP elsewhere into things the green master race specialize in: shields and accumulator destroyers.  Sure blues can pick up EWAR skills to supplement their combat robots, but if they're cross training they are doing it to a way less effective level than a green pilot who's supplementing his combat skills with EWAR skills(ENGINEERING warfare ).  Even with a modest amount of that side EP into drainers/neuts you're making a green combat bot already nastier than it is, particularly if you pump serious EP into shields/accu, which we're basically made for(and keeps extra weight from drains/neuts off).  Green speed issues play into fitting additional non shield modules though, so that already kneecaps my idea already.  A Tyrannos w/launchers and 2x medium drainers that's shield fit is a nightmare to kill, but his speed isn't doing him any favors.

I really don't know though, I see your points, and you could be totally right on the issue.  I'm just offering possible alternatives as to why we're sequestered off.  Don't forget also: Devs have more modules/extensions on the horizon, so they might have been or are planning things around that for some sort of balance issue.

This all being said, I'm a green EWAR pilot, so I don't take combat specific bots into battle outside of NPC farming.  But discussion is always good.

Lemon's post broke it down decent enough, but we're a small fkn timezone so get ready for the doldrums.  I'm positive if you read gen chat you'll find someone mouthing off feeling overly safe, you might even see us blabbering on.  So come stomping over  =]

Also on the small bot thing, I think it's more of a symptom of simply having less targets, so cruising around in 80-100+ kph bots greatly increases your chances of finding someone in a half decent time in our zone.  If the population picks up I'd wager we'll see more mechs out there(hopefully).

If you're a serious night owl though too often the only 4 corps on that field any kind of fighters late into the US graveyard TZ is 62nd, WAR(our glorious brothers in arms!), NEX, and MORTE.

USTZ picks back up a little around 5-8ish AM EST when some of the rest of the world starts waking up across the Atlantic and you get increased TOG, CIR, F-NAVY, and M2S activity as their respective days ramp up.

Sure they did.  Back during EQ1's glory days(and more importantly:pre instancing) the GM's had to forcefully break up guilds because they were too strong and began to monopolize entire zones in the gameworld--and locking everyone else out.  That game has been fine since it launched, and apparently has yet another expansion coming out, so it appears to continue to do fine.  If anything that dev team(the one that took over for 989) has grown substantially over the years.

Most of the players at the time didn't get all insane about it because most of the players were getting shut out of content, and we're talking PVE servers.  And the players that did get split up would just find a way to reform, or rebuild elsewhere.  It wasn't some constant well publicized cycle but it definitely happened, and more than once.

That being said, EQ1 was no sandbox.  Yet, dev teams did take action, and were not burned at the stake.  I guess don't believe everything you think.

Annnnnnnd that's my fun fact for the day.