Yes, 47 pages of how you guys couldn't take anything because SpT gave us such an advantage. And yet, you are now taking stations. And SpT is still in the game.... how is this possible? We always said just show up and play the game and you'll be able to take stations. You guys finally have numbers, and are reaping the rewards. SpT had nothing to do with it.

All this change has done is make more walking for any of the expected "SteamNoobs"  who may flood the game ... May.
Or for the people who build and invest in Gamma. PvPers will only be affected by less PvP opportunities.

The change won't even correct the fact that a simple 5-10 minute cooldown was all that was needed.

Dev Zoom fell for a very persistent Ville troll.
Thats all. The game is still sick.

When mechanics change someone gets screwed. But no one ever talks about the advantage they had before the change, or how much nic they raked in or the kills they got. I completely understand players making long term investments only to have things change and obselete an entire character ... But its part of the game. I don't think EP resets outside of the extensions changed should be done.

Yes because Arga is a combat juggernaught. Fear his demobbing Riv MK II.
Oops I posted too soon.

The difference Gunner is none if us are starting or pushing a forum campaign to drastically change the way you play, because we can't beat you in game.

Please tell me why a 5 minute cooldown and a 250k nic charge per spark tele would not solve 95% of your complaints.

Both you and Lobo have stated in the last few pages you don't give a rats *** about Gamma, so why are you pushing a change that *** Gamma? It will do very little to change power projection and PvP, you know, the original arguement for this topics. Even Zoom has stated he does not expect it to change PvP much ...

Then why do it? Before SpT the world was a 1/3 of its size. You cannot use that as a valid example.
Comparisons to EvE are not valid either, EvE with 7000 systems is 2000 times the playing size of Perp. A game changing mechanic still leaves lots of systems for someone to do their thing. Here, this change reduces the playability of a small area even smaller. But its perfect for you and Lobo and Balf who just want to shoot and roam.

Subscription games need their steady carebear subs, in EvE they are 85% of the revenue. Gamma is 2/3rds of the current available la d mass in perp. eventually players will move out and colonize, when players come. You guys are so worried about the Steam influx sparking everywhere, when the problem will be no noob will like or bother with the logistics required to settle Gamma. When I was in War with you many many new players hated all the teavelling back then. But hey, as long as you push a change that panders to your exact playstyle, *** the rest, right.

And Estamel ... Wut? When did I ever say my sub, or voice, was more important than yours? The point was those against the current SpT weren't actively using it. I don't lnow if you ate Kanogi, but I gotta say on comms Kanogi was far more reasonable than your responses so I will assume its aomeone else.

In the end I will play this game whatever the rules are. But I think this proposed change will do more to harm the game overall than help. My opinion.

I make a comment how you need to focus with relevant replies to the topics at hand.
You reply with something to do with someone that has nothing to do with this.

Awesome!
Also, newsflash. Anyone can post anything on the internet. When someone tells you something that would help you to not make a fool of yourself, sometimes its best to just listen than reply.

It sucks replying on an iPhone but here goes:

We are king of the hill because most of the opposition quit. Changing SpT
Wont change it. If your players return, that is what will change us being king if the hill. Nothing else.

I have ENDLESSLY repeated it has nothing to do with my current position. I have been in the other position, playing from Alpha when I got kicked out or was unable to attack a Beta power. I certainly would not advocate to change iSpT simply because its a dumb change. I care about this game, not my
Precious little things I have in it. If the game dies I have nothing.

Industry becomes more logistically difficult with less available sparks. I can project
Power across 6 Gamma islands with just 3 sparks, I can barely use one Gamma for industrial purposes with 3 sparks. That is how it nerfs industry.

What am I missing? Has the distribution been decided? If so where is it posted?

No reimbursement.

Figure out exactly what needs to change and why.
Notify the current Gamma holders what change will occur, ie structure limits and bases per island, etc.
Give them 3 months to reconform their islands with decon charges or whatever.

Then change, but make sure its the right *** change.
Doesnt matter what side you are on there are two things we all agree on.

We want this game to work.
The current Gammas don't work.

Not if Gamma value is at 3, Ville. If its at 2 maybe, but only if you have the extension at 10. I personally don't have it there yet but will have to now I guess. In the end, I don't think its the cause or contributes to the problem as much as you do, and I do think for sure this solution will affect indy and logistical far greater than it will affect PvP. Just my opinion.

No gunner the point is you don't care if you own a terminal or a Gamma, you just wanna shoot stuff and PvP.  And SpT makes it too hard for you. A simple cooldown and higher nic charge would be sufficient balance but instead you push and *** everyone so that you can roam, right?

I want the game suited to my playstyle,, and *** everyone else, thats your point right?

Why don't you and Lobo tell me what would happen if there was a 5 minute cooldown, and a 250k nic charge? you guys are smart. figure it out.

Have you lived on Gamma? For defending Gamma all you need is one spark. To live on and fully utilize a Gamma island you need 2-3 sparks. So this suggestion punishes industrials, while it makes no difference to PvP type, they can still spark to where is needed.

Which is the opposite of what this change is intended to do.

The loudest critics of SpT are those who favour the roaming style of PvP, and those who are not currently holding Gammas and Beta outposts. Ville, Balf, Gunner, Mongolia. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the roam, I learned what little pvp skills I have with Mongolia, Gunner, and Balf and its a great and fun playstyle, it should be in the game. But it shouldn't be the only playstyle. And it doesn't require any SpT, you are simply roaming. this hue and cry against SpT is primarily to make roaming easier. other than a few minor tweeks at best SpT was fine. 5 minute cooldown and a 250 k nic fee would virtually solve any of the arguments the roaming side said that it was OP ...a roam could come in, hit a target, and get out before multiple SpT were utilized to respond ... a fair fight ... and the fee would allow at least a pause at non-stop teleporting. Nothing else was needed.

I played this game when there was no SpT, no Gamma, and travel was a ***. It was the biggest reason and complaint that I consistently heard from new players. SpT was in and made a huge difference to that end. Other things were introduced that have affected the gameplay far more adversly than SpT, walls, Gamma. orange and weaker NPC spawns ... yet SpT seems to be pointed at in this forum campaign as the "reason" PvP died, lol.

Estamel says we have too many Gammas.  We did not get those Gamma's because of SpT. We have them because we took them, and Killed PHM and Chaos and -12- Bases. The solution to us having too many Gammas should be to kill ours, this is supposed to be a game of conflict, remember.

Yes we took what we took after people left the game.  This is what you all tell us and for the most part its true.  Its also the reason why things are the way they are, not SpT. LOW POPULATION!

Almost without exception, the voices against SpT are those that need it least or those that have left the game and have returned to the game periodically or part time, while they are playing elsewhere. Probably waiting and hoping like all of us this game takes off and grows because at its core it should be a great game. But those who have asked to keep SpT close to what it is now are those who have built and maintain bases and gamma and spend far more time in game playing and utilizing the game, currently. At some point in the future the casual player may return, once again own and build assets (because its really not that hard) and then they will realize what a crippling change this proposed SpT modification really is to the game play and to newer players. This is a PvP game but it is also a very complex game of growth and building  and empires, the SpT change affects everything but PvP the greatest.

All that was needed was a short cooldown, 5 minutes at the most, and a higher nic charge, I would guess 250k,  Not too high as to kill any noob chance of using it, and not too low as to not make anyone think twice (yes I know there are ultra rich players)

Its a terrible change and terrible proposal that will adversely affect the future of this game.  It will not affect the future of the political lanscape, our bases will ONLY change when someone comes and takes them.

There's a point in here somewhere. Find it. Cheers.

I was of the opinion to remove them yesterday but Rex and a new player are right, they are very useful to help estimate volume of ore ... I dont use them but i think if others do then keep 'em ... kinda like r-30 scan charges ...