Gremrod wrote:

What speed are we talking about here for the TF degrade overtime?

It's random because it works similarly to plant growth, so randomly picked points on the island over and over, but the rough time is open for discussion. Weeks, months, something along those lines.

And I know that the incentives for gamma are few and far between, but I think we should rather have a solid foundation for gamma mechanics first before moving on to that.

Kaldenines wrote:

Nop it's more like Rock (blue) Paper (yellow) Shotgun (green).

Oh and the only reason nobody is whining about the Gropho is because we don't have 40 man gangs that would be able to 1-shot anything from behind cover.

Edit: also most of the problems seem to arise because of stacking bonuses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQIQUMWBdRU

So much hate, makes me feel really good on the inside.

Farming is a necessary evil. Same as mission grinding.  Like it or not, it comprises the vast majority of income generation in mmos ... if people can't reliably make income they wont play. Its up to the Devs to make the farming tolerable, even enjoyable.

Zoom, the NPCs following everywhere is ruining many aspects of gameplay.  Its fine when we lure them to kill our enemies and they do it to us, but what is stopping someone doing it to noobs. your future income? Its being done to demonstrate its broken. You need to correct it. There is nothing someone can do when they undock a scarab, and do not appear on their screen on terrain before their stability is up, and someone else drags a red mob to them.

Dont tell us thats not reimburseable. Its players pushing a broken mechanics causing loss to other players, its not normal gameplay. And again, being able to take mission NPCs out of mission areas  ... just no. We already have no idea what mission we are accepting beforehand, and its so slow walking out to the mission area only to find ... nothing? Vets understand whats going on, but new players? Hence this post ....

Anyways, I'm just repeating what everyone else is saying.

I think this entire direction you have gone in an effort to nerf the beacon pits and eliminate farming, is the wrong solution to the problem and is making it worse.

Also, not an hour ago, -77- was able to kill a farming Mesmer Mk2 and support bot ratting the lvl 4 mech spawn on the *** by Weyster II ... by draggin a huge number of reds to him.  You know the area, there is only one way in and one way out ..... how can he possibly avoid this? Cudos to -77-, its brilliant what they did ... but it shouldnt be able to happen. What do you think will happen when people cannot complete pve activities? Bye bye customers.

If beacons are the problem, would it be possible to add the teleportation algorithm to only those NPCs that come from beacons? I don't see a reason for touching Alpha and Beta NPCs at all, those seemed to work fine.

(Or better yet, make it impossible to build beacon pits with new terraforming.)

Unban him and give him his accounts back.

He's done his time in nam.

It would seriously spice up the whole gameplay.

ZUBO wrote:

Well most people dual-box in pvp by using a "boost-bot" with remote sensor amps, remote reppers and sometimes nexus modules etc. Most people only control only one pew-pew bot at a time.

Since this boost robots are almost always industrial bots you can train for them as pvp-support and still do some mining.

I myself do not use them and have to rely on corp-mates but that is not a big problem. They are mostly used for larger engagements anyway.

Player build structures are very nice, but you have be very rich and powerful to actually use them as intended. The entry-level is high for the current playerbase.

Edit: i have an edit button

Sounds good, wasn't sure if getting an indy bots training up for combat would take long. I would probably try to not use it for that however, as it just seems unfair to me in a way for someone who can't afford it but that's another topic. I assumed the player structures would be pretty expensive, but it is a goal I can look forward to some day which helps in motivation.

lol about the edit button, guess trial members are out of luck on that feature! Look forward to seeing people in game and thanks again for all the quick help.

What I can see, ERP is not high-end afaik.

Greens are kinda good in shield tank vs some bots(3-5?), Blues are good against 2 bot max, Yellow also good against 2 with their resist.

I think where is something bad is the shield tank a bit better than others. But I also needed check again, and try practice this out.

But If I forget the shield is better (because you cant shoot when is up so this is dsadvantage this why I said "bit better") the greens can use the "bonus" + tuning, blues can use "bonus" + tuning yellow dont have tuning for "bonus". But the yellow bonus is really good at resist, so this is nearly "bonus" + tuning in bonus.

Btw, we can count, math them out if needed and practice them out.

I forgot the autocannons adn machine guns for blue and yellow, the yellow have more accu so for them bit better use the autocannons.