Honestly I have said in the other thread the fight I participated was one of the best.

And I also acknowledged kudos to Chaos for finding a weakness in the base design and trying to get in.

@ Zoom, my suggestion is the game already has a mechanic for calculating distance between 2 tiles that are adjacent ...ie targeting another player ... height affects range ... can this game mechanic be used when deploying from a terminal?

Accelerated EP does not in any way replace experience.

If you make this game too easy it will fail, players like the feeling of accomplishing something and overcoming a challenge by skillfull gameplay and planning.

Provide one (1) account reset at 6 months (thereby giving a new player a goal to sub for, a chance to fix Extension mistakes, and valuable game experience)

All orange bots on Alpha 1 takes away all risk. No risk = boring. Boring = cya.  Currently you can do 90% of Alpha 1 activities without npc threat anyways ... the very few beginner missions that essentially require noobs to mine in arhkes next to lvl 2 spawns is simply *** ... those missions need to be changed, not all of Alpha.

Oh, and everything Tux said.

I'm not keen on ICE, simply because I don't think it will bring AC extra money.  As an alternate method to boost nic for players I guess it would work, but nic also is no substitue for experience.

You dont lose players because this game is too harsh, you lose them (partly) because their direction and options are not clear.  While on trial I repeatedly attacked a lvl 2 arbalest - lvl 4 cam spawn that was close to ICS ... why? because it dropped more plasma than the lvl1's and ...OMG it once dropped a t3 LWF that was worth 350 000 nic!!!! I ruled perp that day ... and I must have lost at least 15 bots trying to figure a way to kill that spawn. In the mean time I perfected the delicate balance between kiting and mods helping range, speed, and locktimes.  These are VALUABLE skills to learn, to practice repeatedly ... make sure players need to learn these tactics by giving them content that demands it.

dunno whats happening but my forums are all askew here, the formatting ... first time I've seen this ... And where is the unique views and % that were displayed on the Greeenlight page? I no longer see it ... just curious

Funny when I was losing my Kain Mk2 pve pwnsaucemobile to the same roaming spawns I was thinking "If only these NPC's could post crap troll posts in the forums they'd be just like CIR"

Disclaimer: Some or none of these events actually occurred.

i personally think having to listen to repeated crap over and over about stuff that happened in the past is driving away the new people who stumble into this game.

That said, the last week or so has been quite calm. Quite nice actually.
And I'm not just talking about CIR, (have had excellent convos with some of them) or whoever my enemies are.  Allies are quite capable of bullshit also.
Active chat and forum moderation would be a big plus for this game, almost as important as good starter pve to hook the new blood, advertising, and various fixes requested/proposed.

Just my opinion.

I'm gonna drag your *** back in game first! Come join me and Tux helping STC to world domination and dying horribly.

With respect Zoom, I believe Tamas was pushing cheaper terraforming cost ... and some others agreed .. and in general, maybe slightly is ok. But reducing them to 20% of their current costs is far too great a change.  Remember, you the Devs were the one the proposed the 2000m change in the first place and it lead to a great hue and cry on the forums and the Dev/Player conference.

But your stated purpose for the change was to promote base defence, not island defense.

And to that end the current terraforming costs only allowed one, maybe 2 teles to be walled off with massive walls, a temporary stopgap (quoting Lemon) that allowed corps some time to solidify their hold on an island.  The high cost meant that A) Corps with lots of money had better opportunity to settle Gamma (working as intended) and B) You had to think about what and where you terraform.

Perhaps this meant using the islands natural landscape to somewhat mitigate the costs of base construction, and choose a location carefully. How can this be bad?  And I suggested reducing Base terraforming, vs regular terraforming, as an incentive to make the players concentrate on Base building, not island isolation.

With cheap terraforming every base will be constructed on top of a square that rises 400m into the sky ... why even bother to find high ground and modify it or a location that has better natural defenses?  Result ... Ugly assed islands.

Ville ... Zoom  said "you are remotely able to delete targets", but I think you need to be in a terminal to place targets.  Thus upon implementation, you cannot place or spark transport to any place you are currently locked out of ... interesting to see what happens if you have a spark target installed and then leave that corp/lose that outpost ...might give a whole new way to spai.

Changes are interesting.  Although I see the need to have a teleport safezone from the longest range turret, I had thought the consensus from the conference was that 1000m, not 2000m was the preferred range.  Might be easier to restrict how close the long range turrets can be placed to a tele, rather than all structures.

I can see the spark transport being used to move miners and defensive fleets around a gamma island and save on the long jog, but you will need to build multiple terminals (not a bad thing).  However, how about player built island only teleports?  Have a neutrality setting (so no enemy interzoning) and limit to 3 per island .... you could probably move a force or miners quite effectively around an island, and the bots also.

Just some inital thoughts, will think about it some more .... steps in the right direction.

Anni, the current range for structures is 500m from teleports. At this range, yes you would be insta-popped upon entrance. The 1000m range is currently suggested instead of a 2000m range. And the 1000m range does not throw away the current CIR defense layout. It still leaves figuring out what to do with 1500m range turrets  ... If those turrets were restricted to not within 2000m of tele, you could still use standard around tele and high tech around a base.

That should make bases harder to kill (good) and teles somewhat defendable but not impregnable (good).

Annnnd .... Coming home from work and there's some accident, doesn't look like I'm gonna be on time will do the best I can.

If possible I would like to attend.  Considering that STC has been directly involved in breaching current allowable defenses twice now, I might have something constructive to add.  And it is correctly pointed out that although we are allied with NATO, ours, and NeBs, and other corps definetly have their own agendas in regard to Gamma.

At first glance I think 1000m from teles is acceptable, and perhaps the introduction of a "teleport to mobile interzone" module would eliminate the chokepoint problem.  I'm Mountain Timezone so the 20:00 meeting time is in the middle of my workday, but if I am invited to attend I will rearrange the rest of my work day.

Edit: thank you for allowing me to attend.

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