Topic: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

20+ hour sap timer? Bug or changed? Was verified by 2 different people, both with 100% accuracy, and both got different times.

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Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

This is not a bug, intrusion time generation has been stopped today for the time of the patch (10:00-18:00). Note: the patch is at 11:00 but obviously we have to avoid that an intrusion extends into the downtime.

And SAP scanning has a bit of inaccuracy even with 100% accuracy, this is intended.

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

DEV Zoom wrote:

And SAP scanning has a bit of inaccuracy even with 100% accuracy, this is intended.

this seems like a contradiction to me, if it has a little inaccuracy then wouldn't it not be 100% accuracy?

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

Martha Stuart wrote:

this seems like a contradiction to me, if it has a little inaccuracy then wouldn't it not be 100% accuracy?

That accuracy value belongs to the geoscanner module and it's also used for mineral and artifact scanning. It only shows the maximum accuracy that the module is capable of, but that doesn't mean that it has perfect accuracy at every type of application.

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

DEV Zoom wrote:
Martha Stuart wrote:

this seems like a contradiction to me, if it has a little inaccuracy then wouldn't it not be 100% accuracy?

That accuracy value belongs to the geoscanner module and it's also used for mineral and artifact scanning. It only shows the maximum accuracy that the module is capable of, but that doesn't mean that it has perfect accuracy at every type of application.

GREAT MAKER THAT'S AN EPIC ANSWER ZOOM!!!!

Now I start to understand the roots of Hungarian Math (tm). For example, just imajine that your current robot speed only shows the maximum speed that your robot is capable of, but that doesn't mean it has the same speed at every direction of travel.

For the love of Gods, stop blowing our minds! 100% should be alwys 100%, otherwise it's not 100%. Reminds me that election in Russia, with 146% of total votes...

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

Geoscanner accuracy = Geoscanner base accuracy * (1 + ((Basic geochemistry extension * 0.045) + Robot bonus))

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Doek wrote:

Geoscanner accuracy = Geoscanner base accuracy * (1 + ((Basic geochemistry extension * 0.045) + Robot bonus))

Whatever, but when you see total value (calculated by your formula) as 100%, you expect that the result accuracy will be 100% AND NOT LESSER

8 (edited by Zortarg Calltar 2013-07-18 12:00:56)

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

Industrial Sector wrote:
Doek wrote:

Geoscanner accuracy = Geoscanner base accuracy * (1 + ((Basic geochemistry extension * 0.045) + Robot bonus))

Whatever, but when you see total value (calculated by your formula) as 100%, you expect that the result accuracy will be 100% AND NOT LESSER

that is true. also accuracy can be calculated with the charge. just as a miner shows (or should show) the yield bonus depending on the charge.

if intrusion charge has for example 5% inaccuracy then the info should show 95% insted of the 100% when its loaded into the scanner...

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

Zortarg Calltar wrote:

if intrusion charge has for example 5% inaccuracy then the info should show 95% insted of the 100% when its loaded into the scanner...

That would be a bad idea. Scanner accuracy is already capped at 100%, even though it could be higher than that with the right extension/module/robot combination. If we somehow managed to display that -5% in your example, people would think they can still increase it with eg. extensions, but that would have no effect -> waah waah, "give my EP back", etc.

10 (edited by Zortarg Calltar 2013-07-18 12:21:40)

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

sigh...
ok next try to make that obvious:
how about adding a additional line in info then.
scanner accuracy 100%
charge modification intrution: -5%

besides:
Each level of this extension raises the accuracy of [[Help:Geoscanning|area-based, tile-based and artifact scanning]] charges by an additional  4.5%.
no intrusion charges in the extention anyway... at least in the description.

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

Yeah I get your point, unfortunately the system doesn't work like that, the modification is not in the charge.

12 (edited by Industrial Sector 2013-07-18 13:47:02)

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

New type of scanner then smile

Should be not that long to implement, and we can test those "New Tech" kernels system on it.

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

If I'm not mistaken, the directional scanner also has a default inaccuracy even on 100%, should we create a new module for that too? smile

Re: Incorrect Sap timer respawn?

DEV Zoom wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the directional scanner also has a default inaccuracy even on 100%, should we create a new module for that too? smile

NOW YOU SEE WHERE IT LEADS!!!!

Perfect solution:

1. Get AVG of all types inaccuracy
2. Make it cap
3. Add in description/backstory/toilet paper/your heighbor's mom twitter few words about "some kind of electromagnetical underground anomalities that affect geoscanner"
4. ???
5. PROFIT