I've already ran that exact speedtester, and the bt one. My throughput was something like 8600. The ISP I am with right now is simply amazing, i've been through about 8 isps before I found this one.

ok

but i would still suggest u actually posted the results to us

speedtest.net .. up and down as it says for server next to u, up and down for server in hungary
pingtest, server near u, server in hungary .. post all 3 values it returns.

I do understand that during the "server lines" switch it causes u to have to send and receive more/bigger packets but it should not be a problem if internet speed/quality was not.

Dont worry about them, Purgatory,  all they care about is specs and other bullsh*t like that.  They think every problem can be solved by just upgrading something.

The simple answer is that your connection can probably handle 1 or 2 node changes at once, but when you get 3/4+ it just roflpwns your download and doesnt allow the normal game data to get through.

The client just needs to be optimized to always allow that data to get through, and download the height maps as fast as possible but not take priority.

But I will say that I lol'd pretty hard when I heard you have this monster of a PC but then you're still running off an 8mb DSL line.

The server line lag issue seems to have cleared up - Did the perpetuum devs run a fix in the background? Before I could barely cross a line with 1 character but now I can cross with 3-4 together and my ping still remains stable, a massive improvement.

That's some damn fast work if they've fixed it, and without taking the server down too.

Hmm, I know my ISP had an outage for a few hours earlier, technical difficulties. It came back up and a little later I realised the lag problem on server lines seemed to be gone.

ISP updated that the problem was resolved yestaday, meanwhile my lag issue in perpetuum is worse than ever.

I've ran speedtester.net, just to be sure that it's not my ISP, and it's not.

Speedtest.net to london
6.98 mb download, 0.36 mb upload

Speedtest.net to hungary
7.05 mb download
0.39 mb upload

The max advertised speed for all 8MB lines is up to 8mb download, 0.40 upload. Many of the large isps barely achieve half of this, but mine is a really good one, as it achieves close to the full advertised speed.

So what is the problem? Why does it seem like my connection to the perpetuum servers is being throttled? I've checked the usage between my perpetuum clients, it's using nowhere near my max available bandwidth, barely even 10% of it.

Something else strange that happend is one of my perpetuum clients was totally lagged out with NA ping while another on the same connection was running fine at 50 ping. How the hell does that happen? Unless the perpetuum server are setup to throttle the connection if too much data is going from one IP.

I dont know if that is still a problem for some, but the game connection is similar to a Torrent stream, as far as i know.

I heard some ISPs blocking or throttle torrents.

Yeah looks like you got a real one there. I have spikes to around 250 sometimes but only results in a 'auto-stop' and some light rubberbend if I push my bot with W key. I still think that placing a server somewhere in Central Europe would help both Europe and US players with better latency...

All I know is when the client lags out and returns N/A, it means theres packet loss. Ive had traceroutes running at the same time as the client has issues and you can see the correlation.

This may be more frequent due to the height map data packets being larger. Something worth looking at imo.

My ISP finished testing my username, they confirmed there was an issue with how traffic was being handled on my account. They've fixed it and given it back and now all is working fine.

No haven't mixed anything. Mb/sec = Megabits per second, thats the speed traffic is measured. If you want real MegaBytes you have to devide than number by 8 and you get approximately how fast your connection is in Megabytes. So my 20Mb/sec connection can pull 20/8=2.5Megabytes per second. My connect with Budapest 11Mb/sec = ~1.4 Megabytes per second.

Unfortunately even with a good connection speed the amount of time game packets reach my client is still too long - 150ms. And this is directly related to the location of the server. While I may not have these big problems like a Purgatory its enough to make me rubberbend from time to time and I also know that this rubberbending is related to how good connection game server sits on. Like I said before 150-200ms should be completely fine for MMOs, the problem is either in game's network code or somewhere in between. I think that when 2 big groups of players meet in Beta lands it affects other players.

I don't have permanent lag, I have some hiccups from time to time. And it annoys the heck out of me. I am trying to automate my bots so that they can follow each other and when I get a hiccup they stop. Not sure I will be playing PO for long if they don't fix this annoying problem. And I kinda doubt they can fix it without having a separate server for US located players hosted somewhere in states. Which they were supposed to do in the first place - have 2 servers, one for US, one for Europe...