With respect Zoom, I believe Tamas was pushing cheaper terraforming cost ... and some others agreed .. and in general, maybe slightly is ok. But reducing them to 20% of their current costs is far too great a change.  Remember, you the Devs were the one the proposed the 2000m change in the first place and it lead to a great hue and cry on the forums and the Dev/Player conference.

But your stated purpose for the change was to promote base defence, not island defense.

And to that end the current terraforming costs only allowed one, maybe 2 teles to be walled off with massive walls, a temporary stopgap (quoting Lemon) that allowed corps some time to solidify their hold on an island.  The high cost meant that A) Corps with lots of money had better opportunity to settle Gamma (working as intended) and B) You had to think about what and where you terraform.

Perhaps this meant using the islands natural landscape to somewhat mitigate the costs of base construction, and choose a location carefully. How can this be bad?  And I suggested reducing Base terraforming, vs regular terraforming, as an incentive to make the players concentrate on Base building, not island isolation.

With cheap terraforming every base will be constructed on top of a square that rises 400m into the sky ... why even bother to find high ground and modify it or a location that has better natural defenses?  Result ... Ugly assed islands.

Really??.......... You know, some of us tried to be unbiased, and think about all play styles. Others obviously are only interested in their playstyle, and screw everyone else. They're not PvPers, they're griefers!!!!!111!!!1! So their opinion is irrelevant.

Expensive does not equal slow, if you want it to be slow you limit how much an Island can be terraformed per day, month, whatever. Expense is a temporary block that will be overcome by more players, inflation or some other means.

http://forums.perpetuum-online.com/topi … mentation/

*hint* there is a topic around that

Game balance by cost is pointless look at titans in eve. In fact theres very few things you can do to stop this happening. one way is to make it take longer to TF. Make it or keeping it expensive will only mean newer / younger players wont get to have a play with it. the rich beta corps will how ever.

The problem you bring up wont be stopped in the long run even if you made it more expensive. being able to just TF in TP is stupid & i will never stop saying that

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Yes you do bring up a good issue. For all its unbalance moon minerals in stEVE while not being the sole factor in driving wars does make them more tempting.

Having a strategic resources that is both dynamic AND DEPLETE ABLE (very slow regen?) might help fuel turf wars as corps try to secure it. tbh i think this is what a mining tower should have been for.

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Don't listen to Obi, IT'S A TARP!!!!!!!

And here are some answers:

Everything will stay as it is, both buildings and terrain. Reimbursements would be really hard (if not impossible) to do based on stuff that happened inside the no-build areas, so as the blog says, we have decided to reimburse the price differences for all the terraforming charges and construction blocks (read: from the moment when the expansion went live). We think that this will generously cover all the losses and the time invested. There will be no reimbursements for buildings or their foundations, since they will be either deconstructed, destroyed, or left alone.

This has been fixed in today’s patch.

We have a new idea for making the tier system less linear and more accessible, it would look like this:

Normal tiered items according to the current system (new name in parentheses):
T0 (T0): stays as it is
T1 (T1): stays as it is
T2 (T1+): stays as it is, requires T1 modules to build like now
T3 (T2): remove current T2 modules from its components
T4 (T2+): stays as it is, requires current T3 modules to build
T5 (T3): brand new tier, no component prerequisites, uses colixum-based commodities
T6 (T3+): brand new tier, requires T5 to build

So the system would be built up of tier pairs, one normal variant that needs more “exotic” commodities as we go up in tiers, and one “+” variant that needs the normal as a component. The common trait of + variants would be lower fitting requirements than their normal variant. The important thing to note here is that higher tiers wouldn’t have cascading requirements anymore.

In the new system, tier designations for factional items would be:
T2+ -> T1F
T3- -> T2F
T4+ -> T3F

As for robot variants, the naming is yet undecided.

The blog was unfortunately a bit unclear on this: only complex auras will be available, and they will be a bit rebalanced to have level 1-2-3 versions for standard, advanced and hi-tech buildings.

No plans for that, they would be just sitting ducks like all industrial robots, there is nothing really “elite” about that.

This would be nice to have, but buildings in the network don’t know about each other. Maybe at a later point.

The one who accepted the assignment will lose the collateral amount that he paid when he accepted, and the contractor will get it, together with the payback of the set reward. The contractor will be able to set an expiration time for the assignment, so it won’t be possible to “sit” on a package for the end of times. When the time is up the package will self-destruct and the same thing will happen as explained before.

Yes, only the main terminal. For all the other buildings we can’t make a difference whether you just started a base or you put down a building right next to a well-fortified network.

Although the amount of manufactured blocks is low compared to the blocks purchased (14k vs. 150k), we have decided to reimburse 4 construction blocks for every construction block manufactured.

We’ll reduce the molecular instability timer to around 20-30 seconds.

We can’t remove the NPC-seeds for construction blocks, because they require colixum to build, so new corporations setting foot on gamma wouldn’t be able to build a mining outpost.

I’m not sure if that’s a typo, but there is only a 2-hour window between emergency phases. (Well, that’s the minimum since you can’t know when you’ll be attacked again after those 2 hours.)

We do not plan to reduce the timers because corporations need those days to evacuate if they decided to keep their assets there.

They are already random.

Those are the very same NPCs like in normal spawns, with the same loot. If we increase it, it would increase everywhere.

Yes they could be made cheaper, but we think it would be dangerous and could be used for massive griefing, as long as players don’t have a direct and easy way to destroy them.

We propose to set the transaction fee to be always 1000 NIC, regardless of order duration. Of course we would reimburse the connected extension in this case.

The base market tax would be reduced from 12% to 6%.

You still have to transport your robots, weapons and everything to the “enemy beta terminal”. And once those are used up you still have to do it again and again if you intend to use spark teleports like this. Correct me if I’m wrong but the only issue I see with this is more fights on beta, and robots getting destroyed. (IF this will really turn out as a viable strategy.)

And now the only other question i have, is when do you think this patch will be put on???

If you devs are going to give us a new tier of mods B***dy hell plz make the research system better.

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Remove Colixum requirements from blocks, maybe? Still seems utterly absurd that you need to have a mining outpost on gamma before you can build a building on Gamma. You wouldn't have a T4 armour plate as one of the components of a T4 armour plate would you? (slightly different , I know but you get the point)

Beta should be a stepping stone to gamma for corporations so if you insist on Colixum being a construction block component how about colixum/construction blocks dropping as SAP loot or popping up in Gamma artefacts?

or ... and I might have mentioned this before ... remove colixum as a construction block component.

This.

Great Wall builders have been complaining that their 2bn NIC wall is too easy to terraform through and we should make it either cheaper to build or harder to knock down but maybe, just maybe, a 2bn NIC/100 man hour defence that can be breached with 500k NIC and 10 man minutes is the wrong defence.

Tip: run around gamma in a masked light ewar and look for a place to build a base whilst pretending that teraforming doesn't exist.

Keep terraforming expensive please.