Topic: So, that balance....

Oh boy, here we go again.

Change:Optimal range of medium ballistic missiles lowered... AGAIN....

Alf, what the F.

Don't fix *** that's not broken.


also...

Change: Increased the explosion size of medium ballistic missiles to 10m.

Please nerf missiles more sir, i didn't find them completely useless.

Change: Set the explosion size of seismic missiles to the same size as all the other missile types.

While i understand that you want to protect small bots from big bad grophos, all you have achieved is that missiles wont do full damage until stupid EP spend on mechs.
LvL 7 untill you do full damage on mech.
Also, now the one good ammo, the seismic, which was "specialty"  in my opinion, is nerffed.
There is now even less point for using seismic (or any other damage mix) over chemical.


Change: Reset flight path calculation (the LOS arc) of missiles to its original (lower) state.

Why? If you did this for cosmetic reasons over the game balance one's... Allah help us.


Change: Zenith's EW energy usage bonus changed to EW range bonus.

Hello overpowered EW bot. 500m demobilisers, anyone? lol


New:Line-of-sight calculations are now applied to energy drainers, energy transferers, energy neutralizers and remote armor repairers.

Will make little difference in remote rep, but will severely nerf ictus. Which combined with this change...

Change: Sensor supressor modules are now chance-based just like ECMs and ECCM provides defense against both modules. The new "EW strength" parameter in both ECMs and sensor suppressors is now compared against robots' and ECCMs "sensor strength" parameter in calculations. Read more about this in

...created a blanket nerf of all possible EW, energy and conventional. Now, dont get me wrong, i am not huge fan of the EW to begin with, and if this was your intent, then hats off.

New: Added a new attribute for armor plates and lightweight frames called "Demobilizer resistance". The effect somewhat resembles inertia, since in case of armor plates this resistance weakens the slowdowning effect of demobilizers, while equipping lightweight frames increases their effect.

This, paired with new Zenith, will create 500m no fly zone around any gang that has zenith.
Actually, zenith alone can do that. This change relay servers nothing,
but, time will tell.


Change: Increased the mass of armor plates.
Change: Increased the armor provided by armor plates

Yay for even more strong, more slow buffer seth lol
Actually, this will impact seth the least in speed, due to heavy initial weight, and nerf the lighter robots.

Fix: Shield absorption did not take robot size into account.

Only exploit m2s didn't use. lol

TL;DR

Don't go pelistal, they suck now even more than before.

New king of EW and demobilisation is Zenith. Hurray for Amarr... i mean, Theolidikkend laser race.

Welcome our new "must have" module for pvp, ECCM. Will protect now from everything.

My seth can now have close to 10k armor buffer. Ha Ha.

Remote repping got slightly more complicated.

Kain can now fire 8 times, from its old 6 time, before capping out.

If you have LWF and you get demobbed, you are screwwed, oh wait, you already were, and this change nothing. roll

And last but not least; Sucks to be ictus pilot, LoS for drainers/neuts. lol lol lol

Re: So, that balance....

the missile nerf just removes the incentive to MAKE/BUY/COLLECT sonic missiles because the benefits have been removed. instead of pushing people to use the selection of missions you have created what you have done, is moved people to chemical instead.

This is because carrying a mix of missiles are just pointless in the long run [aside from smites for pvp] so instead of having a specialist producable missile we now have nothing.

And so this post is productive and not just a *** about alf's nerfs. Alf instead of the essentially 12.5% difference in explosion size [on smalls 3.5m -4m][cant remember large]. how about 3.75m so its only 6.25% difference. OR a relative increase in the range or damage of the sonics.

Thx for your thoughts on this suggestion ALF.

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Re: So, that balance....

Steeldragonz wrote:

And so this post is productive and not just a *** about alf's nerfs. Alf instead of the essentially 12.5% difference in explosion size [on smalls 3.5m -4m][cant remember large]. how about 3.75m so its only 6.25% difference. OR a relative increase in the range or damage of the sonics.

Thx for your thoughts on this suggestion ALF.

Yes please, I miss my sonics.. they're pretty useless now.

Re: So, that balance....

sigh i know daddy siddy loves his missiles but one shotting intakts before with your gropho was a bit much. missiles should suffer like lasers and em... hit dispersion is a pain.

los calculations on missiles meh i didnt like them flying through buildings but the los didnt need to be reduced.

Los on neuts drainers remotes is fine but destroyed the ictus.
And wow can you not fit anything on an ictus... reactor reduction for neuts/drainers plz

Shield size needed to be fixed but didnt help the trojar much. (esp with the los change)

demob changes i dotn mind if you have to stack them to get immune to demobs.

suppressors missing i'm glad for... especialy when 2 sensor amps is not enough to counter the effect of 2 suppressors.

Siddy your turn...

Re: So, that balance....

I think Mr Timberlake said it best with- CRY ME A RIVER!

Re: So, that balance....

Necro much?

Re: So, that balance....

Rayna Von Savant wrote:

Necro much?

His color has nothing to do with this and im both appalled and shocked at your response.

Re: So, that balance....

BizzyBeast wrote:

His color has nothing to do with this and im both appalled and shocked at your response.

I'm shocked and appalled that you are still so butthurt over getting rejected by M2S that you would bump a thread with no activity for 10 days, just to post a weak-ass troll attempt. Strike that, I'm neither shocked nor appalled.

<you aren't even M2S's most amusing fanboy>

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Re: So, that balance....

Draz wrote:
BizzyBeast wrote:

His color has nothing to do with this and im both appalled and shocked at your response.

I'm shocked and appalled that you are still so butthurt over getting rejected by M2S that you would bump a thread with no activity for 10 days, just to post a weak-ass troll attempt. Strike that, I'm neither shocked nor appalled.

<you aren't even M2S's most amusing fanboy>

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Who are you?

You sound mad bro.