That had control over domhalarm, norhoop and novastrov and didn't use their land. Yes I'm referring to those corps. Remember alexadar saying he never used norhoop anyhow? Wow I saw those 3-6 corps take use of it.

Also it must be the ones we saw use norhoop, or domhalarm like 2% of the time(LOL how often is norhoop populated? ). The ones with like 2-3 guys in it that never do anything but farm on telesis. Yep. They were just "waiting" for that beta oppurtunity to come out again and farm at at it, but previously they "couldn't."

Nice try gilgath, I'm not the only group on the server that sees through those fallacies(F-NAVY, TOG, M2S etc). Nova has about 2-3 active corps and that's it. Activity shouldn't be rewarded to inactive people.

Like I said, if alliance is having a hard time holding onto so many stations, maybe that's a sign to split up or control far less. Welcome to trying to take 6+ under the system. Get in a corp anyhow if you're going to make some logical premise.

As much as I've learned about this game over the last 2 months of playing I'm VERY reluctant to ask for specific changes. I am still learning the mechanics and the implications of % changes here and there. I leave that to to others.

However, and this is just a thought, it may be cool to see T4 CTs come out of high stability SAP cans in a similar fashion as with Artifacting. Some % chance to find 25/50/75 in a balanced fashion that does not screw those guys who spend 10000 hours farming kernals for research.

Again its about balancing playstyles; carebears v. killers. Give both the same *** but through means that each enjoy. I would love to have T4 mods to make you cry but why should i have to spend gazillion hours farming when i may find one by chance doing something I love ...*** on your territory. Even better if I can 'passive hack' it out of your outpost inventory:P:yarr:

At the same time farmers may not like roaming ... you guys see where I'm coming from here? Give us ALL advantages, but let us play the game in different ways to achieve those advantages.

*** man, I'm gonna get fired at work if I don't stop reading these forums.

By the way devs, I love your game!

Well, so does everyone else bucko.  Say, didn't TOG kill a good deal of 'arkhes' at that last intrusion against Brightstone?  Also, you remind me of someone... who was it again? Hmmm...  no one important I guess.

On a more serious note:

1. Can we make SAP hacking modules either cheaper or manufacturable?  SAP hacking is supposed to be common and as such bot losses.  Not everyone is in a commune and/or can affort the steady loss of SAP mods expected to accompany SAP ops.

2. Will the stability percentage changes remain as they are?

Murderer... killing a defenceles Castel like that.

EDIT: Why are signal detectors ineffective on ewar?

You had launchers, . I looted them.

I like the changes to the intrusion system although just like anything else it can be improved upon. I like passive saps they are a cake walk 8). I think the biggest change that would fix a lot of the whiners problems is let corps take their own saps although it should take 2x as long or do 2x the amount of damage.

Im on the boat with the guys that want to get rid of the specimen SAP's and make them energy based(its not like the outpost uses or even sells all those random items its asks for anyways).

This has been some of the most fun i have had since starting the game, these changes have brought something to do on beta. It also has shown that some corps only wanted to "own" an outpost if they could do it while playing huttball !!!!

the system is really easy to understand and use if you want an outpost on beta and "actively play" the game its not difficult to do. the problem that many people have cried is that they lose saps out of their time zone. ummm ya if someone is actively trying o take your stuff they might take a sap or two. but if your playing the game you will capture more than they take.

MMO's are 24/7 things happen when your not online, making corps able to change their SAP timers is the most ridiculous notion ever IMO. Doing this you might as well separate the game into different servers and that's something the DEV's will never do.

Scanning SAP timers is a good balance fro the attacker and defender because it does 2 things:
1. promotes people living on their islands (outside of terminal) ... kill the scanner bot if its such a big issue, if your not present to defend your outpost from being scanned are you going to be able to defend it from being attacked?

2. gives everyone else a swinging chance at mounting an attack. If no one but the defender had advance notice of an opening to attack then the system would be lame and cement existing owners into their current outposts with out opposition.

tldr: play or quit ... choose one

Because Mara Kaid Exists.

The rest can come later, but pls, pls, pls can you make SAPs take longer to attack right now, so we don't have to sit on the damn thing and can actually do what this system was supposed to be about, being active on your own Island.

Also leave specimen SAPs, as they are the only one that can actually be defended, ppl whining that they can't just roll over them in 1 min like the other SAPs is p funny

ouch ya that does suck

True Pros make a Podcast to influence the Devs minds, 
The rest of you guys are Hacks

PS. I got my Highways & stopped playing b4 they came in & have never used them! ...... Irony much ?

Some additional notes:

* Nice proposal by Saramara: tie outpost stability to outpost industrial activity (mats being refined, stuff being built/repaired/recycled). So it's not about ninjas and timed blobdrop anymore.

* Balance point is 0 stability now, since going towards 0 is easier than going towards 100. Fiddling with timers won't change this fact. And zero stability means no production (and no meaning) in beta. We can reach 100 in peaceful times but any conflict (which this game is all about) will bring it to 0 quickly.

* I want alliance feature so that many corps can hold ONE outpost without the risk of kicking each other out on a whim of a single CEO. So more outposts will be available to hold by new alpha corps (don't see anyone waiting in the line tho). Anti-nova rhetoric by WAR and 62nd is irrelevant to this matter.

I see how you are afraid of (potential) competition from beta-based corps, since they can have better facility levels than you. Ofc zero stability on beta is to the benefit of alpha producers.

I was not bothered with lvl3 facilities before, why should I be bothered now lol , you work hard to get that lvl4 facilities then you deserve it. I made my choice and I accept it. You make you choice and then whine.