Really? How many saps have you defended? How many have you defended against an intruder? How many have you defended against Novaforce? As far as i know, the answer to all those questions is NONE, and i know for a fact that the answers to questions 2 and 3 is NONE. Until you've done that you have absolutely no authority to comment that part or comment that part of gameplay.

Also I dont die often, and when I do, you're not on my mind or on the tip of my tongue at all.

I'm not wasting my energy commenting anything else, P is not worth it any more.

/signing off this thread.

By doing this the point of living on beta MOOT!. I can log in run to beta attack my own sap and tp out and claim to live on beta, and still have time to go ninja 3 other islands. Domination is living in beta and defending your sap. The wait mechanic is not fun be glad its only 1 hour and not 2-3 I'm not really seeing how this is an issue if you only take what you can keep.

Glad to see this thread is not going to get closed! Oh wait.... BTT

Living on beta is now all about living on beta. No one can have cake and eat it too.

You hold what you can hold the rest of the areas will be Free for all which will make for more Pew this patch is a sucess imo.... Only thing im not sold on is scanning for times.

The funny thing of this whole thread is 62nd are THE ONLY ones defending the new intrusion. So i would hazard to guess that it is because they have not had to constantly defend their SAP's, a situation that may change in the future then we will see them crying that they are getting blobbed. they have no issue killing 4 with 7-10 but if they get killed by 7-10 then its OMG BLOBBBB.

First of all good job to the Devs for implementing this refreshing feature to the boring Beta Islands.
The Change blows some fresh wind in the underused Beta Islands where 75% of all Outposts were owned by Corps but never used. It attracts a bit of roaming activity to those undefended Outposts and there is a decent Reward in for everyone. If more smaller Corps go for the initial costs (which are still rather high for small corps and nonexistent for large Alliances) there can be some interesting skirmishes in the future.

As for the intention of creating a direct relation between the Outpost Holders Activity on the Island and the Outpost Stability,in my opinion  there are  still a few flaws in the Current System. Defenders are at a Loss with this new System some of the Sap Goals are rather easy to fulfill and a larger force attacking will almost always win against smaller defending forces the reasons for this are displayed in many posts in this thread(needs re-balancing). Shouldn't be too hard to give the Defenders a little bonus in defending and i don't mean just the corp owning the outposts (i know devs hate alliances).

I think the main Reason for the negative and in most cases unconstructive  Critics is that this Patch is not what the rather small Community of this Game hoped for. I my opinion it is still not worth it to live on Beta the risk of being ambushed while doing your lucrative Beta Business, Epitron mining in most cases, stands in no Relation to the Reward other activities can be done on Alpha as well and there is no Content exclusive to Beta wich makes it worth to be a big Target by living there. This caused 2 big Alliances to form for sheer self protection you know the rest of the story. Today there simply is no other way in permanently living there than being big ... the opposite should be the case if this game wants a future. The Intrusion Patch did nothing to change this rather the Opposite. The other reason is that these 2 Alliances hoped for well Alliance feature seeing that at least 75% of the active beta population is in an Alliance...
I personally hate Alliances if they consist of such a big %tage of the Server Population so iam probably on the site of the Devs for not doing any Alliance Features .

There are dozens of new players on alpha just waiting for a chance to hold an outpost.

If veterns decide to quit the game, the next generation of players will take over, and they will work the mechanics currently in place.

They'll start by stockpiling bots, modules, and ammo on alpha. If they don't have to fight veterns, since they've left the game, there's a good chance they'll take some SAP's and form a foothold on beta.

As they stabilize, they'll recruit more players. Its NEW for them, so they'll do the alarm clock and CTA's and consider 1 hour of sitting there a BLESSING that that didn't have to use resources to protect it.

After they're stabilized, they'll start getting bonuses.

Meanwhile, other alpha players are grouping up to take other beta outposts.

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This is a new mechanic, which means that everyone is really starting over in how outposts need to be treated. If 13 months of game play makes you not want to do CTA and wake up at all hours to defend something just to get back to where you were before the change, then that's your choice.

Stop playing, take a break, or take a step back and look at the game with new eyes.

Strategically, Pull back.

Assess how the new system works.

Devise a new plan.

Implement it.

We don't want this to happen, but notice this. Suppose an alliance decides, well we only need to log in 1 time a month now to hold our outpost. This can't happen under the current system, and as arga says, newer corps that have more activity can take these outposts that are left open while the less active alliances aren't playing.

Why should people who don't actively play a game be rewarded with a stake in territory?
They shouldn't.

The newer players should be, who are active and vibrant.

It's all working as intended. If the big lazy alliances leave the game. We won't miss them.
The devs are clear with this patch. They don't want big stomping alliances owning beta! Intrusion 2.0 is all centered around corps spread across Nia. THIS is the game I want to play.

I even think that there should be a high penalty for one corp owning more stability than for example 140. So a bigger corp can't just stomp a smaller one out of their outpost.
In my eyes these are exciting changes. We'll see in the coming weeks how it plays out.

Which is vastly above the server load a couple months ago when I would log on to see 80ish in general chat.

These days I log on and see 180+ in general chat alone.

Many F-navies has reported on the dev blog the problems we are talking here. I would thanks everyone who troll / flame / rage on us on the general and the forum... but after thinking this patch seems getting better and better.
For every fanboys specialised in the anti-gaming (i don't need to say that's Novablobers), i hope you realise the sillly situation you are and i hope you'll enjoy that patch.
Regards Anivia

This is epic! See the problem is people are trying to hold mOre then what they need. Now being in a big alliance is more of a hassle with having to get huge numbers up organize a fleet every four to 16hours. Corps now have to be more self reliant then ever and if your corp doesn't have the ability to stand on its own even just a little bit a big alliance is gonna drain it's self out try to hold all there bases. Yes saps are a little to easy to capture I agree but I2.0 I think is the move in the right direction. It's gonna be more benoficial to be in a single stable corp then a huge alliance that relies on pure numbers to beat the compotition.

Im not gonna quote arga but to me this is the best time for a few alpha corp to take out post and if your not worried about epeen then u all just live out of one OP you just have to be smart about it and if a group is willing to push contact me and I'll give you all the advice all the info you need to atleast give it a go but beta does mean pvp so u have to be ready for it.

I want this game to grow and flourish I will give as much help to a small group of alpha corps only info and suggestions no blue standing