1 (edited by Burial 2011-11-12 12:39:28)

Topic: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

I am wondering how to solo PVP in this game? Going alone to hostile beta is not really an option. One way would be to flag on alpha and it could work reasonably well in my opinion.

If anyone has done any previous solo PVP then please share, how did it go and worked?

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Flagging on Alpha DOES work.

But this is a sandbox so you get the good (solo) and the bad (blob) all the time.

It happens get over it and move on.

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3 (edited by Annihilator 2011-11-12 17:29:57)

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

talk to a player named "Sir Vampire"  wink or "Lemon"

while the later one does "Solo PvP" with multiboxing AFAIK - because all his single-mech-solo builds tend to get nerfed wink

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Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

I have wondered how hard it would be to set up a 1 v 1 tourney and ladder system with different classes (light v light, assault v assault, etc) on Alpha. Have people sign up and challenge, be ranked and try and stay at the top of the ladder.

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Atticus wrote:

I have wondered how hard it would be to set up a 1 v 1 tourney and ladder system with different classes (light v light, assault v assault, etc) on Alpha. Have people sign up and challenge, be ranked and try and stay at the top of the ladder.

wouldn't be so hard. see Mara's regular 1 vs. 1 light bot matches.

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Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Burial wrote:

I am wondering how to solo PVP in this game? Going alone to hostile beta is not really an option. One way would be to flag on alpha and it could work reasonably well in my opinion.

If anyone has done any previous solo PVP then please share, how did it go and worked?

Your options are very limited until the troiar nerf. Find me in-game and i can help with some tips, Yoslin is also another great solo-pvp source for information.

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"Even alone you probably are one of the best" - Khader Khan
"Lemon the 1 man army .... also know as: THE TERMINATOR!" - Obi Wan
"There are people who are just better then you at doing many things at one time, some are far better then myself, far better." -Merkle

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Talk to Kustomrod in TOG & his " Castel of Doom ! "

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

hope you guys do not count killing lone arganos and unshielded termises as "PvP"...

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Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

I need to say.

Mainly this game not for solo PVP, even worse in 1v1. Because main mechanics is not about these type of play.

But, you can solo PVP, 1v1 just you need to know many things for reward what is mostly 1 kill or better is 2 and you need to know a bit better the game than attackers, and you need many practice and find your advantages and specialize your skills, and fittings dont need soo many EP just specialize. Mainly the solo PVP -ers will die most of time so you need cheap fit the enemy can use T4-s.
You need to prepare to fight against many players than you, so you need practice for that, because you need to know what will be "killable" or not.

I summarize what I know for the new guys to do it.

what you need:
-cheap bot, T1,T2 the most importsants T4 but is not every time needed, insure your robot
-after many experience you need to use the terrain for your advantage
-specialised fittings, skills
-need to find the enemy weak points and need to attack in good time

disadvantages:
-enemy detector  (you also can use but hard to use)
-many times the enemy use T4 modules what is mainly better than T1 ~1.4 times
-fights 2-3 people at the same time
-need many of time when you can find a good enemy for you
-most of time you kill weak enemies (that not too kind)
-after many of played hours your name will known and they know what bring most of time and what they need afraid of.

reward:
-1-2 kill, nice loot
-„win” when you killed the all of enemy at a time (2-3) and you can reach safe place

That is what can I say after many of solo PVP.

And there is Memorandum from Inda. (I hope somebody interested)

My best moments:

in Arbalest: I killed 2 Waspish MK2, Waspish T4 fitted he want to fight, Kain (I died afte fight because explosion damage and was before the Mech buff)

in Kain: I played at a same time a Cameleon, Castel, Yagel I killed Cameleon, Yagel, Castel can fight in the end 1v1 me big_smile and these guys was good in pvp (TOG team), I played with 2 Arba + Baphomet at a same time, I used NPC -s and killed 1 Bapho and then the others has low HP after we all died for Observers but maybe I could fight more time.) And I killed in solo SirVampire in Kain, maybe he was a little bit surprise because he said first when saw me „come here” I did.

That fights was the best for me in solo PVP carrier, but for that you need about many dies and many walking kilometers in betas.

I need to write some of my losses:

Whom I cant kill and I remember for them because I really wanted to kill him, Lemon in his tank Artemis, Anivia Tristian in also Artemis.

Thank you all of you who I did pvp.

Energy to Earth!

18.01.2014. [12:57:58] <BeastmodeGuNs> after that i remembered all those warning about 1v1 you lol, and i found out why xD

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

The best way to get solo pvp is to use a second account w/ detector and have your first account masked. Prep your self on what you want to gank and go look for that target. If you want to gank miners you can probably fit what ever but if you want to hunt kains, plan your resists, ammo, E-war to exploit them to the fullest. Possibly an Artimis with range extender dmob supressors that puts you at an advantage to the farming kain.

Things to look out while PVPing/roaming solo;
If the target is to juicy check behind it or bewary of trap. IE loan termis with field can far away from a outpost.
If you see a robot detecting chances are he sees you too.
If enemy is behaving strange... IE. loan cammy keeps pushing in to d-mob range instead of running. Hes buying time for someone to come get you.
Sometimes smaller is better. Navigable terrain is a lights best friend and a Mechs worst enemy

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Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Lobo wrote:

The best way to get solo pvp is to use a second account ...

Old DAoC buff bot user sad

I ever had the impresion "solo PvP" means to PvP using just one robot driven by one agent using one acc ...

Not: "I am my own gank using alot of real money to pay X PC with X monitors and X payed accounts".

But well, now I know, why I suck at SOLO PvP ... I just missed to buy more hardware and I'm not realy good at multi tasking (2+ keyboards, 2+ mice and so on) *ROFL*.

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Jack Jombardo wrote:
Lobo wrote:

The best way to get solo pvp is to use a second account ...

Old DAoC buff bot user sad

I ever had the impresion "solo PvP" means to PvP using just one robot driven by one agent using one acc ...

Not: "I am my own gank using alot of real money to pay X PC with X monitors and X payed accounts".

But well, now I know, why I suck at SOLO PvP ... I just missed to buy more hardware and I'm not realy good at multi tasking (2+ keyboards, 2+ mice and so on) *ROFL*.

4 Accounts 1 screen 1 mouse 1 keyboard.

Sup Bro...

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"Even alone you probably are one of the best" - Khader Khan
"Lemon the 1 man army .... also know as: THE TERMINATOR!" - Obi Wan
"There are people who are just better then you at doing many things at one time, some are far better then myself, far better." -Merkle

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

He wasn't talking to *you*, Lemon smile

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

I only do that to pinch people between my different combat accounts tho.

Solo pvp with 1 bot is very viable.

Undefeated 2013
"Even alone you probably are one of the best" - Khader Khan
"Lemon the 1 man army .... also know as: THE TERMINATOR!" - Obi Wan
"There are people who are just better then you at doing many things at one time, some are far better then myself, far better." -Merkle

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

The major problem in doing solo pvp is that you have to to plan that you get instant way home because encountering too many enemies before starting doing solo pvp.
My opinion is that if you meet 5+ enemies beeing alone, you survive only if they are not prepared to fight (e.g, carry no weapon or have no lwf equipped and you outrun them easily) or they are quite bad. Extreme shield tank is last possibility but you usually don't start solo PvP in shield fit, you just manage to survive but kill no other.

Solo PvP is doable. If sucessfull it is in  most cases  vs Indu or vs unprepared but there are nice examples of good fights and I also remember seeing fights with 1 vs 2 in similar bots which are won by tactic and skill.

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Long time ago,I soloed pvp , with little experience and it can be done, lost most fights than won though but was always a fun experience. Most of the time I wasn't even looking for a fight just defending my stuff. wink

Drive cheap.

RIP PERPETUUM

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

I roam solo daily while I'm on holidays. If i get pew pew in 1 v 1 all good. If not I have 50+ more yagels to go out in big_smile

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

As long as the comunity is small, it would be posible to work out some sort of "fair play contract" which claims a small part of Beta just for very small scale PvP where gangs up to 3 or 5 can have some fun ONLY using 1 acc peer player and where the "big guys/ganks" agree not to chase solos.

Somethink like "player made SANDBOX area for fun actions".

But I doubt, this will ever happen, as some wannabes allways break this agreements with "but but I wantz my funz too" sad.

Man, I loved Providenz and Red v. Blue.
Compareble save entrance for new player into 00 and "small scale PvP with some agreements and fair-play".

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

It's possible, but how often does it work in your favor you ask? Not very many times as most beta islands are patrolled regularly by large entities. Just be prepared to be ganked, and like Celeb said drive cheap!

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

there is not much "solo PvE content", so its hard to find solo PvP content.

and solo pvp-player A meeting solo-pvp-player B without passing PvP-group has a very low chance to happen.

theres also no robot fit that works well vs. groups , but sucks vs. solo, and backwards, so single robot vs. group is suicide most times, unless the group is unarmed.

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21 (edited by Lobo 2011-11-19 11:56:53)

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Jack Jombardo wrote:
Lobo wrote:

The best way to get solo pvp is to use a second account ...

Old DAoC buff bot user sad

I ever had the impresion "solo PvP" means to PvP using just one robot driven by one agent using one acc ...

Not: "I am my own gank using alot of real money to pay X PC with X monitors and X payed accounts".

But well, now I know, why I suck at SOLO PvP ... I just missed to buy more hardware and I'm not realy good at multi tasking (2+ keyboards, 2+ mice and so on) *ROFL*.

Tactic is very much do-able with 1 account..... Main combat toon is logged off on internal TP in what ever bot you choose.... second toon (Eyes)on that account is in a light bot off TP @1000m preferably in a place with escape routes. your Eyes toon spots enemy either hopping in to that TP or chases your eyes to that TP you instant log your eyes and log your main and boom. Solo pvp. This also protects your main from being ganked as you can effectivly scout weather or not its worth logging in your main.

Edit: also most people with 2-4 accounts don't multi box we just multi client. Run your client in windowed mode and you can easily filp flop between the 2-4.
Hence having a decteter and a masker is easy.

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http://killboard.sequer.nl/?a=agent-his … mp;month=7 Best month 104 to 1 k/d

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Lobo wrote:
Jack Jombardo wrote:
Lobo wrote:

The best way to get solo pvp is to use a second account ...

Old DAoC buff bot user sad

I ever had the impresion "solo PvP" means to PvP using just one robot driven by one agent using one acc ...

Not: "I am my own gank using alot of real money to pay X PC with X monitors and X payed accounts".

But well, now I know, why I suck at SOLO PvP ... I just missed to buy more hardware and I'm not realy good at multi tasking (2+ keyboards, 2+ mice and so on) *ROFL*.

Tactic is very much do-able with 1 account..... Main combat toon is logged off on internal TP in what ever bot you choose.... second toon (Eyes)on that account is in a light bot off TP @1000m preferably in a place with escape routes. your Eyes toon spots enemy either hopping in to that TP or chases your eyes to that TP you instant log your eyes and log your main and boom. Solo pvp. This also protects your main from being ganked as you can effectivly scout weather or not its worth logging in your main.

Edit: also most people with 2-4 accounts don't multi box we just multi client. Run your client in windowed mode and you can easily filp flop between the 2-4.
Hence having a decteter and a masker is easy.

Problem is this works only a few times and then people know what your doing, so your traps becomes a trap for yourself and then you get ganked repeatedly.

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Serpens wrote:
Lobo wrote:
Jack Jombardo wrote:

Old DAoC buff bot user sad

I ever had the impresion "solo PvP" means to PvP using just one robot driven by one agent using one acc ...

Not: "I am my own gank using alot of real money to pay X PC with X monitors and X payed accounts".

But well, now I know, why I suck at SOLO PvP ... I just missed to buy more hardware and I'm not realy good at multi tasking (2+ keyboards, 2+ mice and so on) *ROFL*.

Tactic is very much do-able with 1 account..... Main combat toon is logged off on internal TP in what ever bot you choose.... second toon (Eyes)on that account is in a light bot off TP @1000m preferably in a place with escape routes. your Eyes toon spots enemy either hopping in to that TP or chases your eyes to that TP you instant log your eyes and log your main and boom. Solo pvp. This also protects your main from being ganked as you can effectivly scout weather or not its worth logging in your main.

Edit: also most people with 2-4 accounts don't multi box we just multi client. Run your client in windowed mode and you can easily filp flop between the 2-4.
Hence having a decteter and a masker is easy.

Problem is this works only a few times and then people know what your doing, so your traps becomes a trap for yourself and then you get ganked repeatedly.

Serpens knows his stuff on getting ganked...he is the expert here.

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Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Lol binAry

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25 (edited by Skraw 2011-11-20 08:46:01)

Re: Solo PVP - something that is not really viable?

Steps to Solo PvP:

Login
Fit Bot
Assume position
Begin Trolling
Wait 1-2 hours for a group of 10+ to arrive
Take down as many as you can.

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af3 … m_0033.png

Repeat as needed.

My Kill:

http://perp-kill.net/?m=view&id=10167

PS i knew going in to it what was waiting for me

Other cases of this play style
http://s1022.photobucket.com/albums/af3 … on%20Blob/

Check dates and search perp kill for total kills quite a few missing.