I don't like it. But it's already happening, so there's not a lot of choice.

Devs were warned about things before that players have found to be destructive in nature, but they did nothing until they saw the glaring truth of the notion in action. Here we are again.

I support THIS.

Lower all the tax, and tax them both.  That way nic stays in the corp but the CORP benefits from people using the corp market.  It would be a good step towards making BLATANT capitalism a more viable choice (at the moment, NeX is a hybrid).

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Contracts.

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I have an alternative suggestion.

Ditch the public market entirely and allow corps to sell access to their internal markets. Every order on that market is tagged by that corp, and if you buy access to multiple markets you can see them all simultaneously (with their corp tags). Corps can set the fee for access at anywhere from 0 to infinity. They can also set different prices at different relationship levels (so you could make it such that people set -5 pay 10mil for access, and people set -10 can't buy access at all, while people at +10 have automatic access). Or you can just deny access to everyone. Whatever!

You'd also be able to set a renewal period for the access (anywhere from a day to a year), or just set the period to infinite.

A corp could also buy access for its members by paying the fee times the number of members they've on average had in the last thirty days.

Players could click a button that shows all inaccessible orders, and the price/volume tracking function could be set to show the results of all transactions in an outpost, only transactions in markets you can use, or only your market.

I think this feature would help alliances and indy corps the most. Indy corps would be able to engage in outright competition, negotiating deals for their minerals and setting people red who annoy their miners (locking them out from buying the minerals entirely). A good market would provide a hefty sum to the corp wallet in the form of access purchasing, but newbies wouldn't be excluded entirely from the market (with said feature, NEX would probably sell neutrals access for a very minimal sum).

Use NPC b/s orders in newbie corp markets (taxed at anywhere from 1% to 5%) to cover the gap, and allow vets to buy access (for a nominal fee, say 50k nic) to said newbie corps to list things there.

All in all I think this would be a _very_ cool feature.

It'd give indy corps something to do and fight over (you won't sell us access? We'll set you red to lock you out and also bribe other corps to do the same, so ha!) without having to shoot one another, and would allow better and easier collaboration between corps in an alliance, who'd no longer have to deal with a fragmented market (they could set each other green and set green to automatic market access, creating an instant shared market). Finally, it'd provide corps with an incentive to increase market activity and a means of earning income from their members without those members having to mission or donate.

I mean, good god. This is something that would be so easy to do in this game (95% of it is already there, just gotta add a few more features and voila) and would enormously increase the fun of market pvp! It'd be more like Patrician than EVE!

Whatcha think? Should I open a suggestion thread?

If we could sell access to our internal market, and other corps could do the same, the game would go from a bunch of fragmented crappy markets to a network of interconnected ones. Corps like yours would benefit the most on the sales perspective, and corps like ours (with lots of consumers) would benefit from negotiating access sales.

I mean, imagine if you could buy access to our internal market, and we sold said access with the understanding that no other indy corp would be sold access. You'd have sole supplier rights to a corp full of hungry consumers. We'd have a supplier who could provide us with more goodies than we're capable of producing on our own.

Wouldn't that be a far more interesting market model than the current one where .01nic and spreadsheet analysis is considered the height of the art? For the first time in a long time (possibly ever), an mmo would have a market system that incorporated all the negotiating and lies and supplier networks a real world market uses. That'd be some cool ish right there.

If you list an item it has your tag, and is visible to everyone who has bought access to your corp. We'd actually probably have to buy access to your market in this example, as I doubt you'd want to access our orders. Maybe for ore, but otherwise not really. But we'd probably demand a steep discount because, hey, we actually buy things!

We probably don't have the largest member base anymore (I don't think so, anyway). What gives us market power is that we've got a large base of pvpers who buy their own gear, and a large group of pvers who are constantly upgrading to new gear. Most of the other corps out there are small, already upgraded or supply themselves. We're the only net importers serious net importers of gear.

Forget about trying to fix the market tools. Buying/Selling on the market is so yesterday.

Which items?

Lucius Provides for the finest warez in the land!

On the open market, not nicked out of a closed corporate hangar and privately sold between whomever this fellow is and myself.
A basic search?  Pretty much any t2 or t3, most t4 items on the market are so bloated it's not worth more than a glance and a laugh.  There are no marketers out there competing to drive prices down, but then there are no purchasers out there to drive prices up.

TOG, which I joined yesterday, is aware of this and ... well, like any other corp out there just shrugs and maintains internal markets or just internal stock bins.  You're looking for something you just ask, someone either has something in their stash or can produce it.
Not that much of it will ever see the open market; it's consumed internally for the most part.  I'm sure CIR, NeX, and any others are the same way.  Four or five t4 producers, who got in before the research nerf, can barely produce enough for the corp, much less enough to slap on the open market.

T2 and T3 seldom see the market because what's not in use on bots goes into T4 straightaway.

A player driven economy is a great way to make a game dynamic, but restrictions on those markets must be reduced, or altogether eliminated, for the early life of a game so that the market can become established.  Perp seems to have missed something to enable growth, but I'm no economist to point out the fine details;  I only see the big huge gaping hole where a dynamic, active market was supposed to go.