I'll say it's cycle time for me as a director and I'm likely going to be taking it and spending some of my free time in DDO now.  A lot of folks were fantasy MMO players before they were scifi, you know.  and DDO runs on my friend's crappy laptop, which is awesome, so I will be spending time gaming with her again.  (I just couldn't bear going ot WOW so we had to find something that was more visually like EQ2 with a decent rule set.  and yes I know it gets boring fast but we're not power gamers and have limited timeframes, so a dungeon or two a night works).

I've been here since June and Intrusions still mean little to nothing to our corporation without outside assistance, even with our insane size and dedicated members.

Plus we're bittervets (lol), we're cranky and angry and a lot of folks are afraid to devote their time and heart and guts into something again.  So the "hold" is loose, purposely so, for a lot of folks. No one wants to get burned twice.  But it won't matter WHO it is doing the burning.  Devs and Players are equal animals in a Sandbox.

It's no one corp's fault.  It's an attitude problem shared by different people in a lot of corps.  It's the "LOL look who I chased out of game" syndrome.  Works fine for EVE entering Grade A game status advertizing on YouTube and cable TV... bad for Perp.  Word spreads fast and when you hear it's "Join or die", it's like, meh, I'll spend my time elsewhere.

I *said* all this stuff.  I'm sure it didn't come out very eloquently when I did, but I pointed it out.  Ofc I"m sure everyone thought it was political spin.. but surprise surprise.

I still love this game.  Still staring longingly at my Mk2 in the hangar while I train up for it. (oops, was a teeeny bit short on that in EP.. >.>)  But while I'm training up my life goes like this:

Log In
Say Hello
Defuse Current Drama
Run out of time, log out.

I'll say it once, I'll say it 1000 times.

The players make the game in an MMO that focuses on MMOness and not solo content.  Perp does NOT focus on solo content, that's why I play and the hubby doesn't anymore.  He likes to solo and have it at least be marginally fruitful.  At our skillpoint level, it just isn't - not without 2 accounts, or tricks that we just don't know yet being new and certain choice info being so jealously guarded.

In this case, the game mechanics are just a skeleton.  They are not the game.

We are the game.  We are the meat and bones and what makes it all dance and sing.

There are people who are going to go where the win is, by accident or on purpose.  There are people who are willing to 100% be the underdog, and deal with the possibility of crushing losses 100% of the time no matter what.  But, then, there is a large section of people who want a chance to make that ever elusive third side - and there isn't much of one here.  But that's just politics, that's "the game". 

Not to pick on CIR directly but to use it as an example, as Commie Red as they like to be (which makes the political banter lots of fun tbh ) they act more like the USA and our at times wacky military decisions (much love to our troops but some of the stuff we send them on is plain redonkulous).  Sure, we have one country, but if another country invades someone else's, oh lookie!  Our troops are there, and the invaded country didn't even ask for them.  We "own" one landmass but go where we want and shoot who we want, we've got so many army bases kids are born as US Citizens pretty much by accident anymore.  It's not bad or good.  It just is.  And it leads to "terrorism" (Oh, the poor Lithuses and Sequers and Arganos It is the "civilian" bots that suffer most.)  Seems to be the same sort of arguments coming out of the Russian corps - slightly different flavor, but still the same detrius.

And if you look at the whole political landscape, from AFAR, it's a pretty cool game concept, tbh.  But it's not holding players.  Why?  Well, maybe if we were all a touch sillier about it, turnede the RP up a few notches and turned down the real life "We wanna make you quit" BS, less people would actually, uh, quit.  The best pirates and generalized buttholes in EVE and other MMOs grief without griefing.  Their victims don't leave.  It generates story.  There isn't these situations of mission statements being written that directly violate the games's EULA.  It's just a game, not a RL Vendetta.  And "meant that way" or not, that is how it was expressed, that is how it was and is percieved, and perception is E V E R Y T H I N G.

P.S.  I was a Radiation Oncologist for ten years until my spine decided it didn't want to be a research scientist anymore.  So Tusk, I know what you're saying in the way that you're saying it.  Good luck to you.  And that's srs bsns.

P.P.S.  YOU CAN NOT WIN AN MMO.  So anyone saying "Well we just want to win" is, in regular language, saying they just want to be the only ones left in the game.  I mean seriously, do you realize how sick that really is, when you think about it?  There's winning engagements, sure.  But this "winning the WAR" BS has to stop somewhere or it will be a war of attrition and the snake will be left to eat its own tail.

Aeon had a good point many weeks ago.  CIR makes a good enemy.  They make an AWESOME enemy.  M2S and 62nd shape up as excellent anti-heroes.  (In fact, doesn't everyone?)  But when I hear about people bragging about getting others to cancel subs and counting that as an in game tactical victory...  Everyone.  EVERYONE has to stop that crap.  Hell, it was the FIRST thing I told the people from EVE to do - wash their boots.  Forget the past BS.  And much to our dissapointment (I won't say surprised, because, well, yeh.  We knew a lot of ex-EVE were already here) we somehow walked right back into it.

If this game is an EVE "clone" it is because some players insist on acting like the stars of the C&P forums.  We MAKE it one with what we DO.  Sandbox?  Sure.  Stop building serious spaceship business intrigue in it and see how much different it will look after awhile.

For the spyless: from NeX's statement of intent documents:

Should I just retract this?  Did I misinform these ex-EVE players and thus disarm them of a very valuable tool that would have kept them subbed?

Industrial Sector: Shouldn't it be GTFO and wait if you're still paying? Well, unless it is 10$ beer money, then we can cry

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But but

CIR needs an alliance function

Hm yes every time I go to buy a brand new car...I listen when the Dealer says "just wait...you can actually DRIVE the car in 6 to 12 months...but we want your money now."

And then I throw cash at them and waltz out the door....

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Thanks for missing the point bro.

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You mean the game you were a confirmed hacker in

You'd be hard-pressed to find a player in MO who didn't hack. From the benign "gamma-hacks" to be able to actually see something more then a pitch-black screen (which was particularly entertaining) in the night time, to the more malicious "weight-hacks" where you traded endlessly between two people because traded item weight would not add up to your total weight, so you could transport tons and tons of materials.

In that respect, MO was and is what Perpetuum would have become if Devs here didn't have their heads screwed on straight and sanctioned the exploiting.

But I was talking about general game stability and bug presence. Nothing quite like going to whack a little piggy and to see it enter hyperspace and vanish off in the distance due to buggy AI.

well, the perpetuum car is driving,
in 6-12 month you got several free tunings and "product recalls" of your perpetuum car.

you don't expect a car to gain new features over time, do you ? if it were the case, you'd invest in the future options of the car as well as in this game ...

it's just a matter of perspective, or in your case misguided analogies ...

It's a shame that you seam to be proud to be a cheater, hacker, game destroyer.

Everyone, who is known as "hacker/cheater" should be instand banned from ANY online game.

To sad, there are no real laws against it . 5 Years jail MINIMUM would be OK I'd say!

It is amazing how motivating a slowly-shifting coloured blob on a map can be.

I'm just kinda logging in and goofing around on the weekends. During the week I do other ish. Luckily my crop of secondaries has been doing an excellent job without me. I'm seriously proud of that.

But if I2 comes out and is awesome and if we start to get some muscle and if the online numbers recover this game could be a lot more fun.

A lot of players are finding they're lacking content after the few 2 months now which is much faster than it used to happen.

The issue being once they're ready to leave the nest they keep getting pushed back into it. There are only so many times falling back and rethinking becomes an acceptable option and during each of these times players 'Disappear' to other places.

I can only speak for myself when I say right now in the game I an grinding relation standing as there is little else to do that is worth doing right now.

Having seen 4 players (All controlled by the same player) troll an entire outpost of people I can safely say there are some people out there that don't want to risk their robots (Too attached?) and it's really removing PVP enjoyment. I wonder if this is due to the fact that some people feel as if they have to work harder than others to achieve the same level as other players.

A group of very experienced and knowledgeable players will always be able to do something better and more efficient than a group of players still trying to find their feet.

It only takes around 5 capable players currently to put 15+ newer players or Weekend Warriors to shame.