I think the current situations is as follows:

In cases where terrain is flat missiles are bad, they're not useless but still bad. Turrets are good here.
In cases where terrain isn't flat missiles are still bad. Turrets however are nearly useless here.

Seeing as a bad weapon is much stronger then a nearly useless weapon we come to the point where people complain that missiles are OP.
Seeing as a bad weapon is much weaker then a good weapon we come to the point where people complain that missiles are UP.

I think that in order to reach balance medium missile DPS ( small missile DPS seems fine by my calculations ) needs a definite boost and LOS for turrets needs to be fixed. then we can hopefully come to the situation that:

on flat terrain missiles are good but turrets are great.
on sloped terrain missiles are good but turrets are okay.

To put it into imaginary numbers: currently Missiles always deal 50% of max DPS, on flat terrain turrets do 100% DPS and on sloped 10% DPS.

What we want is the situation where: Missiles always deal 75% of max DPS, on flat terrain turrets do 100% DPS and on sloped 50% DPS.

Or possibly even 90% for missiles, 100% for flat terrain turrets and 80% for sloped terrain turrets.

I played the waspish for a long time in open and closed and missiles were great. Then I found Em guns and was like wow these are great. and i watch all the laser users and laugh. :-)

The weapons are very balanced in the end.

I am not here to take sides on missiles however i am here to tallk about lasers. I have spent almost all my EP in what seems like a dead weapon. Lasers are POINTLESS in a game that requires LOS and most if not all of the land is curved or has hills. If i try and target a mob and get a good range to fire, the mob will move to get their best range whichs screws my los so i am forced to constantly move and adjust while my friend with the missiles just sits behind a hill and owns everything! He misses maybe once in awhile and i am lucky if i hit a mob even if they are in perfect range and i have great los.

Basically my toon, my account is WORTHLESS! I am unable to progress without the help of others due to LOS issues. In fact it is so nad that I had to take a 3 day break so i could get enough EP to get a missile bot and the difference is totally unfair.

There is a reason why everyone is using missiles right now and that is because they are the only weapon that functions correctly in the game.

Huh?

Again, I cannot speak for the devs, but my understanding is missiles firing arc and lesser cap usage are some the advantages of the weapon. The Horrific DPS is amoung drawbacks.

If every weapon hits in the same fashion, why would anyone choose any other weapon than the top dps weapon?

I think I was pretty clear though.
Terrain, and its effects on weapons,  is a consideration in weapon choice. I think its a good thing it is this way as it keeps all weapons from being the same. I also think its is as the devs want it. Variety is good.

Lasers do more dmg but require a player to consider his positioning. He has to be on flat, open terrain or he has to be  on higher terrain shooting down on opponents. When he meets this criteria his dps cannot be equaled by an equally equipped missile user.

Missiles do nor require the player to be on flat, or higher ground. On uneven ground, or areas with a lot of growth, Missiles can do more dmg then Lasers(or others.) 

I do not see the problem with this.

I also think people are confusing Los with terrain. The Los problem was fixed a few days ago. The terrain effects are part of the game that people need to get used to.

Im not going back and forth. I am stating the way it is.

The screenshots posted above, that I responded to, show what I said to be EXACTLY right. There is a guy trying to shoot a bot through a hill, and other from below and thats his own fault and not LOS. It isnt an issue if he positions himself correctly for the weapon he chose. Had hedone so he would do more dps than ANY missile bot could accomplish.

Again, these are not LoS issues, they are terrain issues and thats a normal game mechanic. Looking at those SS I see a guy positioned with hills or mounds between he and the target. Does he expect his lasers to shoot through that? Do you? People want to target things and hit the fire button and expect to have things just blow up. Thankfully, thats not how it works in this game. If Missiles and Lasers or other guns all fired over terrain equally there would be NO reason to choose missiles over the other weapons since they ALL do better dps.

If laser/gun users want to be able to hit things the way missile users do, then missile users need laser dps, plain and simple. I like the system the  way it is now since not all weapons are the same.

Its not a circular argument if gun users dont recognize that the ONLY benefit to missiles is the firing arc. Without it, they are just all around terrible weapons.

I have made 2 toons since I started playing. 1 laser and 1 missile. The missile is the 1 i developed further and I would give almost anything to go back and change it because the further I progress the more insignificant my missiles dmg has become. The ONLY benefit is the firing arc.

Ok there is a disconnect here between what your saying, and what I see. Your last screen shot certainly does not show what you say. For future reference you should zoom out a little.

I never said everything is ok. But this thread is about MISSILES los making them more powerful than lasers, and thats just not the case. Again, if lasers fired in a arc the way missiles do, what benefit would misiles have?Why would anyone choose missiles? This thread is asking for JUST THAT. It is comparing missile los to that of lasers. But they are doing it without comparing other factors such as damage. High lvl laser bots do more than double the dmg of missile boats yet they want the same firing arc? No, im sorry. Thats just not logical

it depends where your using the lasers.

they do have an issue if you are shooting down a steep slope.
staying on a cliff and shooting down at something that is pretty close to you, just downhill will not work most time.

If your on flat ground, and sure there's no hills, but your shot still hits the ground or goes the wrong way, what does your combat log say?

Does it say that your shot missed?
Or does it say that your shot was blocked by an obstacle?

You do have a chance to miss, and when you do, the shot will miss, this is often shown as the shot hitting the ground.  Double check your combat log next time and see what it says.

Other then that, I don't know what to tell you, LOS works just fine for me. Is your connection laggy maybe?  I find it odd that it would work fine for some and be buggy for others.

just to prevent wrong informations spread... smallest surface is 2.75

this will never be agreed, because em/laser users want to use there full range [which means going through hill and such on los], and missile users only have burst alpha strikes over low los as and advantage due to such low range and dmg [in comparison]. No one is going to agree here in theend because everyone wants there weapon to work better. also doesnt help missiles keep getting nerfed but thats something different