Annihilator wrote:jack - your argumentation is pretty narrow about 1 of 3 announced, and probably 7 other non-announced, industrial changes.
- the announcement didn't say "we remove it completely from t1 but leave it in t2 as it is"
- the announcement didn't mention the high grade recycling -> its a logical fact that this extension will change
- ignoring the CT change is key factor in your bad argumentation...
good that at least some others got that point
And you don't get, that most of the players here don't care about the new producers at all but try hardcore to ninja the idear to "BOOST MY BETA" and "bring more player to beta".
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Furthermore we also plan to replace all epriton based components in T1 modules.
Remove it from T1 but let it in T2+ ... that's my point (which you don't seem to understand), they did not mention any change to T2+. If there is no change to T2+, this planed change is a shot in the back for all non-beta producers (new and old one!).
Or do you realy want to tell us, that this rare T2+ drobs can cover the recycle quantity of current T1? Who the hell recycles T2+ in larg numbers at all?? Maybe if it is red-damaged, the rest is either used in bots or used to produce the next level.
The "logical fact" about revamping recycling isn't that logical!
Yes, I hope the DEVs don't forget to change it. But it is no where mentioned. And when it isn't mentioned I can't ignore it.
The change to CTs is enough to help new producers and I mentioned several times, that it is a good way!
Overall bad attamp to flame me. Try it again .
Gut Punch wrote:IF you don't need epri to make the basic, T1 items, you can actually start producing them without a venture into beta or a buy order.
And there will be no other source then Beta anymore ..
this leads to:
as soon as a new producer want more then T1 he MUST buy it from Beta or has to risk his little Argano to mine it.
It doesn't make it easier at all but might make it even harder.
The very few T1 which aren't drobed will still be produced by Vets with much better extensions where a new producer can't compete. Except that BOTH don't need high quality materials now.
And he will have a much harder live to produce T2+ stuff as he has no chose anymore how he aquire his high quality materials.
And some of you still don't get it: you can place golden eegs on beta and even then there is a majority of players, who simply do not want to go there!
So this attamp to bring more player to beta will fail
And now let's get back to the topic how to realy help new producers!
Removing high quality materials will NOT help them but rather make their life even harder.