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Thanks, you pretty much summed up the most important parts that we're aware they're lacking and intend to improve on: more islands (both PvE and PvP oriented), incentives for PvP, more interesting mission system and additional PvE mechanisms.
Planning and development is continuously going on for all of these and if it's possible we roll out the smaller improvements as soon as they are ready. The bigger expansions (like additional islands) of course need more time, but they'll come

Also, put them between the beta and alpha islands and interconnect them with double or triple the amount of current teleports allowing for multiple routes between each and from them multiple routes to each beta island/alpha island.

I think a lot of people are just upset because this patch brought so many changes its difficult to know what to do, especially if you do production or mine.

smaller changes more often are best imo.  If eve released a patch that made this many major changes I think the whole server would *** a brick.

I believe that the idea of waiting to add more land when you have more subscribers is inherently flawed.

I think the size of the game has determined the size of the population, not vice-versa.

Slap down some raw land with resources, add stuff later :-x.

I'm quite agree with Euphoric. It would be better for the game to quickly release lot of new deserts island that release one by one beautiful and detailled islands.

The problem by releasing few island each time is that you let big corporations prepare themself to take control of the new islands as soon as they are released. We need, don't know, maybe 20 or more island soon, in one patch to make it impossible, even for biggest corporation, to be prepared to control them all and lets some smaller corps take a part of the cake.

I would prefer 20 more deserts by month, than 2 high-detailled island. In addition, with player vegetation, terraforming, players building... maybe most details would be added by players themself. So you could concentrate your efforts by creating a good terrain generator and be able to release new island really often. To give the feeling to players that we are dominating a new earth, not a new resort islands.

Seems most of us agrees, we need more islands even if they are just barren worlds with a few points of interest.
Not having outposts is a good idea too, just make many entry points to the new islands, both from beta and alpha islands so they are more accesable. I think it's a good thing that resources are not equally distributed and the new lands could have more and less valuable regions: the more valuabled will be crowded and dominated by the large corps anyway, but smaller corps/solo players could find relatively safe spots even in pvp enabled area.

Convert 2 of the 3 Alpha islands into "neutral" PvP islands. At the moment, you have 100 people playing your game for crying out loud, we don't need 3 dedicated PvE islands for new players to "learn the game"...

On the converted 2, leave the hubs there for trading purposes. Maybe less tax for incentive for the brave to haul goods out there. Leave the outposts NPC controlled (that way no one "controls" the islands - everything stays neutral). Upgrade the spawns just a tad here, more spawns with only 2-3 bots per spawn, not 298492874 - that way players can solo if wanting. Level 3+ missions from Alpha should take people to these converted 2 neutral islands, NOT Beta islands.

On the converted 2, add something to fight over or something. See Shadowbane/Darkfall (mines, money etc) for some ideas.

Big, they lost their outpost. The guys that left used the patch as a scapegoat to jump off of a sinking ship.

That is all.

"Control" of an outpost is not based on possession its based on if you can defend it. If you can live out of it.

more space is the answer to the population problem.

right now you have black and white - protected and unprotected zones. second last patch removed the last small transition on beta island.

if they are bringing back the police tower system on alpha island, with gray zones around the coast, and no political system, they will piss of the last few PvE based players and the population will get back to closed beta level (~100-200 active player) with the all the implications.

They must expand the game with more islands, with the current beta islands beeing the transition between open PvP and no-PvP.

where do you want to place those "player owned structures" ? one by one, in radar range of the the others? right now, you can make hevy mechs and any industrial bot visible at more then 15km range (note: the maps are 20x20 km). Add an artillery there and you can control any island with three scouts and an artillery emplacement in the middle.

the landmass is to small for the recent changes.

Whats an outpost got to do with the incessant grind the game has or the complete lack of freedom and space?
When half the server is on your back trying to do everything they can to ruin your fun you wonder why ppl are fed up and leave.

If the 3 beta alliances stay as they are this game will lose 80-90% of its player base as no one else will have access to beta.

If you want the game to fail keep on blobbing up and destroying any1 that comes onto beta.

The setup now is not just the devs fault but the beta alliances as well.
It wont be much fun when most of the pvers leave the game out of sheer boredom and all you have left is a napped alliance covering the 3 pvp islands.

Makes no difference to me I shall be leaving the game shortly anyway.
I play games for fun and with 50% of the content inaccessible cos of shoddy game mechanics on beta islands its just not worth my time anymore.