just spend a little time playing around with fits and I'm sure you will find some good ones

if you want the high damage for pve you will need et bot on another account or do it in a group

Im really curious inda, beacuse nse spend the first 2 days theory crafting and testing fits all day long.  We were testing everything: pve, pvp, indi.  How long did you test or did you go out get blown up and then you ran to the forums to cry about it?  Even Annihilator pointed out the obvious bad *** changes to indi.  Sure a t4 fit symbiont can't be cap stable with all head tuners.  But the multiplier you can get if you can balance it is so much better than perpatch.

Obviously I use the old fittings I used, and that fittings has a purpose in it. And THAT way the effectivity is worse I can use barely 1 tuning vs 4 in a robot where is not any other real option to fit.

You guys think I am stupid, and I also dont test anything, yes I had spend less time lately (than before), but still know what is about.

And I still think this is all together is worse than before, and there is not much of a benefits.

I would just support more Greens withouth this INSANITY.

The game is NOT 100% carebear, NSE is still playing.   Maybe that is why NSE put in the effort to figure out this new patch and everyone else is sitting in their old NAP builds.

Speaking about weapons tho I have more thougths.

   TL:DR - Give a rebalance to base weapon AP consumption to even the weapon tunings out again.

   We got different AP consumption penalties for tuners becouse of the base AP weapon consumption. In that state you can't have it same for it will favor firearms and missiles a great deal. In current state firearms can still pack a few tuners without much significance on accumulator while magnetic weapons suffer greatly after putting even a single one on (go ahead and try firing all 6 EM guns on mesmer constantly after getting a single tuning on - without ridiculous ammount of Accumulator rechargers).
   Now someone will probably think that the weapons need to be that way becouse of realism. I would beg to differ tho. We are using up ammunition - bullets have explosive powder, slugs look like they have a sort of bobbin, missiles must have fuel in them and energy cells are essentialy a battery.

i miss the times when it was near impossible to have any t4 medium weapon "to fire constantly", and injector ammo was 1/10th of its current size (f*** jita!)

well, that was my first point when it was announced.
Range extender and shield tuner are not having ANY penalty aside of their slot requirement.
ok, i remember the time when each range extender put a penalty on accumulator recharge,
and shield tuners had been active modules

both had their "penalties" removed, because "wasting a slot is penalty enough" (for the RE), and
shield hardeners made no sense to be active modules at that time.
and to top that, on missile bots, the penalty had no significant impact.

enwar tunings are ok... if zoom would ever fix their bug, and adjust the penalty to what he has implemented for other tunings

Just @ Game?

If you put a penalty on range extenders you take sieging gamma out of the picture completely.  Although, at this point in time i think it might already be out of the picture.

You people were never very good at fitting bots. The *** damage modification is still there. Has it not occured to you that one full Gauss Seth mk2 with Nexus does more damage than three one tuning Seth mk2?

One energy transfer bot would work fine with the added bonus of having a) energy shown in your gang window and b) tuning not needed so you can use a lot of shield hardeners.