to make that clearer -
the (supposed to be) accumulator based weapons, the Lasers:

• T4 HCL Laser
  Accu: 4 AP/s
  DPS: 21.66 %/s

• T4 LCL Laser
  Accu: 3.84 AP/s
  DPS: 32%/s

the short range weapon does 1.47 times the DPS, for mere 0.96 times  difference in AP consumption.

the AP consumption here is almost equal, so the tunings penalty, of only 30% more accumulator doesnt shift that difference that horribly as it does for firearms.

i'm even not going login after patch. I heard enough.
Full capacitor discharging after six shots in pretorian gropho.

I'd more like to see some extra AP on Echelon. Current amount is just....

Upd. But I agree with Anni. MG can have some more damage or sorta.

well they either need more damage (actually, ammo stats, not guns) or less accu usage.

Every new robot wave theres a change so im betting balance is in progress.
Without all weapon tuning fits people will have to figure out other modules into head slots - wanted variety? There You go.
Also since overall DPS will lower significantly now - maybe tanking rather than ehp will become viable?

But back to topic this is a very valid concern.
Lasers get +30% acc, EM get +50% and firearms +100%. Were lasers considered underpowered so the change touched them the least?
Those acc consumption changes are too steep. Single weapon tuning brings around 16.21% DPS increase each. Becouse the 7.5% RoF increase it was already more consuming on acc the more tunings were installed.
Since the acc penalty is cumulative it gets ridiculous very quick. Alot of times one have to consider accumulator efficiency - to spread it among both tank and DPS. Lets make a quick gauss gun comparison of putting more tunings on:
DPS -   ACC 
100  -   100
116  -   150
135  -   225
157  -   337.5
182  -   506.3
It is basically inefficient to put any magnometic weapon tunings on.

The accumulator consumption increase should be same for all weapon types. Firearms might need an increase in acc usage for that. Acc efficiency shouldn't be suffering as much.

Lets consider a scenario where all weapons get +20% acc per tuning:
100 - 100
116 - 120
135 - 144
157 - 172.8
182 - 207.36
This look closer even tho true ACC-DMG ratio would still be more affected. RoF will increase consumption of ACC as well so with +7.5% at the 4th tuner we would get 33.5 increase in damage per shot with over double acc cost - Personally I would still consider it a bad deal - but more bareable.

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Observer are meant to be THE hardest NPCs to kill.

TBH, the only thing about them i dislike, is their extreme-range demob. With everything else can be dealt with.

+1 awesome idea

yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know about the bad imbalance of firearms tunings. We all worked it out pretty damn quickly and you confirmed it in this thread. Now the fix for it can go to the end of the "list" and we can all wait another 3 years for the correction. It just means no one realistically fits any more than one damage tuner on any fit, especially firearm fits. If the goal for the devs was to be rid of max tuner fits, then objective achieved, even if it was poorly thought out and implemented.

hello?  Been running green through this whole green nerf period (and taking crap for it )!

After many reads, I just getting to that point I want to revert back this stuff atm.

I just feel to much changes without a really good outcome (well just the greens has some love).

I SAY NO for this patch! If we agree on that we would ask the devs, revert that.

WHY and WHY all the time they just dont think a bit more, and wait a bit??? What was the BIG issue about the tunings after 3 years, its ok there is a problem about tunings but not that much, just make a PLUSZ 10 % on tuning accu consumption. Why that much? And leave the Industrials alone.

Personally:

I cant PVE as efficeintly as before
I cant make Harvesting missions as effective as before (dont even talk about Noralgis farming.)

I need to change and test all my fittings on our PVP machines, and that is because of no real good changes just for the greens.

@Inda have you tested pve fits?  i can farm just as efficiently as i did before.  You're just not thinking outside the box.  Yes you do have to change your fit you just can't go out with your old fits.  If you're complaining about Nora and harvesting missions you're view is small.  Find something that works instead of complaining about it.  Stop waiting for other people to do the work for you... wait that's Ethoes.  i would argue and say missions are more lucrative now than they ever have been.  I just wish we could do them in squads effectively.