wait? after how many years of reports that gamma buildings have their LoS target right on the ground or sometimes even below ground you realise that??

what are you talking about Zoom, all T3 Gamma bases are invulnerable because there is no way to siege a base with anything less then 40 people on the field. Even then it falls flat on it's face if there's 1 dedicated defender online micromanaging connections.

The cool starship-troopers idea of assault bots running the turret gauntlet just isn't something that happens in reality. In reality, everyone gets in Seth Mk2's with 6 range extenders and snipes turrets for 2-3 hours hoping nobody comes online and flicks the boosters on. Or wastes 5 hours trying to shoot at turrets being repped by X repnodes because someone is online.

NOTE:

If whatever you're gonna change is gonna invalidate existing base designs, then you decon and move all their assets to the closest Alpha station. I don't care whose outpost it is, nobody deserves to have their assets welped because their base design got invalidated overnight by a patch. Everyone who built a Gamma base put in hours and hours of time into it.

P.P.S.

Ville, I told you so.

You guys keep talking about a perceived idea that you can't get past turrets on a hill in assaults because you die.

I'm talking about a bug where you try to shoot ANY building from below and you get a "shot blocked" message when there is nothing apparent that could block it.

Two completely different things...

I know they're two completely different things, but I vividly remember another completely unrelated change in terraforming, a simple 2D/3D fix suddenly invalidating 99% of base designs in-game overnight and leaving players with their assets hanging in the wind with useless undefendable bases.

I personally have no stakes in it because I've vowed never to build a Gamma base again after that incident. But if whatever change you make is gonna impact the players in a similar fashion, just despawn their stuff and move their assets to Alpha for them. Most of the people who have bases aren't even playing your game anymore, they just log in to dump fuel in the reactors every so often.

lol, syndics next great plan to get rid of the gamma bases of other corps with zero own effort... now he wants the DEVs to move them away.

Gamma should be completely scrapped.

This was one of the nails, that killed this game.  Too much too soon, with little understanding what they want.

Only on the paper.

Sure, the release just happens to coniside with quite a few of the terrible choices that were made.

This wasn't thought out in the long term.  Terraforming was part of the problem, and was a no brainer unlimited terra was going to be bad...bad...bad.  World building is a gimmicky idea that is nothing more then that, a idea.  Give the parties the illusion of power through other means, and leave the true world building to set guidelines.
Slap on the epriton and you Truly start to see the panic.

Not only should this be scrapped, it should be completely ran from.

We have entire sides vowing not to build, couldn't agree more.  Rules changing, bugs going untouched, player bases seeing whats going wrong, and zero changes.

Meh.

Update: we have found the source of the problem and it will be fixed in the next patch.

The problem was that shots were actually blocked by the building's own blockings, when firing from a steep enough angle from either below or above. This happened because when you're firing at a building, LoS is calculated by drawing a virtual 3D line between the center of the building and the source of the shot. The actual point of the hit is determined by subtracting the building radius from the length of that line. The bug was that this effectively resulted in a small spherical hitbox inside the building instead of the intended cylindrical shape, which practically made it impossible to hit the building from anywhere else than the sides.

Annihilator:
This is fairly different compared to plants. Buildings are separate objects placed on the ground, and combat against them is more like robot combat. Whereas plants are not really objects, but sort of an "extension" of a ground tile, where we know that it's a plant because the tile underneath it says so, so we can damage it when the blocking column on the tile is hit. For buildings this would only be possible if all the tiles underneath is would hold the information that there is a building above.

All that, but blocking is handled on a separate level. Every plant and structure, be it functional or decorational (rocks too), has a tile-based blocking layout made up of columns of different heights, which are placed down automatically when the plant or structure is placed on the ground (and removed when it dies). These are simple tile-data (one height value) much like tile blocks which prevent you stepping there, but tile blocks are 2d, and blockheights (as we call them) are meant for height-based blocks. (These were the ones blocking the shots against gamma buildings because they overreached the spherical hitbox at the top and bottom.)

How it looks in the dev client.

It probably sounds way too complex for what it's meant to do, but it's a legacy of the tile system.

That looks visually awesome.