1 (edited by DEV Zoom 2016-04-25 12:34:59)

Topic: Scheduled server downtime - 2016-04-25

Server will be down on 2016-04-25 from 12:00 servertime/CEST (10:00 UTC) for the deployment of a few fixes. Downtime will be about 3 hours long.

Patch notes:
http://www.perpetuum-online.com/Changelog:2016-04-25

Re: Scheduled server downtime - 2016-04-25

Is this the missions payout and bot balance fix?

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Yay! Something!

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good news. good luck for do it smile

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Patch notes:
http://www.perpetuum-online.com/Changelog:2016-04-25

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\o/

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Re: Scheduled server downtime - 2016-04-25

Speed reduction is a good idea.
Although i use HMs 99% of my time smile

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Gekko wrote:

Speed reduction is a good idea.
Although i use HMs 99% of my time smile

Agreed. Let's hope its the first of several such light touch changes to balancing.

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Re: Scheduled server downtime - 2016-04-25

Ville re-confirmed for dev Zoom.

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10 (edited by Ville 2016-04-25 17:27:04)

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The only things left on my soap box complaint chair are:  beta 2 entrances, using existing models in more specialized ways and npc terminal/missions on beta 2s.  And I think that's it.

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Re: Scheduled server downtime - 2016-04-25

Ville wrote:

The only things left on my soap box complaint chair are:  beta 2 entrances, using existing models in more specialized ways and npc terminal/missions on beta 2s.  And I think that's it.

All things everyone with any sense agrees with

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Jita wrote:
Ville wrote:

The only things left on my soap box complaint chair are:  beta 2 entrances, using existing models in more specialized ways and npc terminal/missions on beta 2s.  And I think that's it.

All things everyone with any sense agrees with

At least move further (basically the opposite side of the island) the entry points pls.

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So yea. I guess it affects *all* heavy mechs not just combat. So a further mission nerf and 20% more tedium for all industry. Thanks.

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Speed hm....
tears Ville work. sad

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Crepitus wrote:

So yea. I guess it affects *all* heavy mechs not just combat. So a further mission nerf and 20% more tedium for all industry. Thanks.

Your so bad

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Ville wrote:

The only things left on my soap box complaint chair are:  beta 2 entrances, using existing models in more specialized ways and npc terminal/missions on beta 2s.  And I think that's it.

1. Beta 2 entrances: I agree. Also need to address the issue of entry to the green beta 1, one bot can watch both entrances.
2. using existing models in more specialized ways: Whilst I agree with this we need to be aware of the population problem. With such a small population it can be difficult for a small gang to utilise specialist bots, thus rendering them (for all intents and purposes) useless in the overall scheme of things. If we have sufficient people to be in specialist roles then sure, lets have those options available, but isn't there other things with more priority at this stage?

17 (edited by Crepitus 2016-04-26 01:27:47)

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Jita wrote:
Crepitus wrote:

So yea. I guess it affects *all* heavy mechs not just combat. So a further mission nerf and 20% more tedium for all industry. Thanks.

Your so bad

If you actually played the game instead of just logging in when there are devs around to try to ingratiate yourself with, you'd know that travel is like 90% of what you spend time doing in game.

Oh, wait, you already got your stack of phat loot from pre-nerfed harvesting missions amirite?

Wasn't it you who said they're the most money still because of the time it takes to do them (aka lower than anything else?) I wonder if that's still true since Gliders didn't get nerfed despite the word Heavy in the name. That means transport just got 20% faster by comparison.

Bug fixes are one thing. Knee jerk "balance" patches without testing because whining is another. Let's see devs walk around in nerfed heavy mechs for a few months first.

I know that most of what Ville was *** about were Mesmer MK2s with velocity 10 nexus on and t2p plates for demob immune because that's what he was using himself. How many people can field that? How many can do it regularly? Guess what the counter was, ECM, like it's always been because heavies that can't fight back aren't worth a *** no matter how fast they are. Don't like it? You lose most of your dps. Are assaults any less worthless against mechs because of this? Are lights? All this does is make mk2 mechs the new kings.

It also *** all over QoL which this game is and has always been sorely lacking.

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Just for clarification my response for needing Heavys was for combat heavies only.  The fact that combat Heavys could keep up with lights/assaults is ridiculous.

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Re: Scheduled server downtime - 2016-04-25

Crepitus wrote:
Jita wrote:
Crepitus wrote:

So yea. I guess it affects *all* heavy mechs not just combat. So a further mission nerf and 20% more tedium for all industry. Thanks.

Your so bad

If you actually played the game instead of just logging in when there are devs around to try to ingratiate yourself with, you'd know that travel is like 90% of what you spend time doing in game.

Oh, wait, you already got your stack of phat loot from pre-nerfed harvesting missions amirite?

Wasn't it you who said they're the most money still because of the time it takes to do them (aka lower than anything else?) I wonder if that's still true since Gliders didn't get nerfed despite the word Heavy in the name. That means transport just got 20% faster by comparison.

Bug fixes are one thing. Knee jerk "balance" patches without testing because whining is another. Let's see devs walk around in nerfed heavy mechs for a few months first.

I know that most of what Ville was *** about were Mesmer MK2s with velocity 10 nexus on and t2p plates for demob immune because that's what he was using himself. How many people can field that? How many can do it regularly? Guess what the counter was, ECM, like it's always been because heavies that can't fight back aren't worth a *** no matter how fast they are. Don't like it? You lose most of your dps. Are assaults any less worthless against mechs because of this? Are lights? All this does is make mk2 mechs the new kings.

It also *** all over QoL which this game is and has always been sorely lacking.

That's even worse. I can provide the tissue for you to dry your eyes and wipe your nose but you will have to get a clue yourself.

Proverbs 23:20-21 warns us, “Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."

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Jita wrote:

That's even worse. I can provide the tissue for you to dry your eyes and wipe your nose but you will have to get a clue yourself.

That's twice. When you can't attack the argument attack the person...

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21 (edited by Naismith 2016-04-26 10:24:03)

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Beta 2 needs field terminals & missions, not alpha connections. If they had missions on them, logistically it would make sense to live there because longer travel time works both ways - longer to get to alpha, longer for alpha-pirates to get to where you live.

Without alpha connections, Beta 2's are vastly superior to Beta 1's - if missions are added there.

Zoom you need to address Mechs & 3 plates demob immunity. They're as fast as heavies were. Drop their speed by 10% or something so they're faster then Heavies but slower then Assaults (simplest solution).

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having all heavies treated equally here was a good move.

after all, its another step towards "specialisation" that so "many" are asking for.
whats the point of a repair specialised mech, when its only advantage is its production cost, but is worse in every other relevant attribute to a heavy mech without that specialisation.

this was also a welcome ictus buff.

well played DEV Zoom.

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Naismith wrote:

Zoom you need to address Mechs & 3 plates demob immunity. They're as fast as heavies were. Drop their speed by 10% or something so they're faster then Heavies but slower then Assaults (simplest solution).

This is a reasonable idea.

Do we need demob immunity at all? A think its right that there should be a difference in immunity with heavies having no immunity, mechs some and assaults only a little. This demob immune as standard pvp  is a bit Benny hill.

Also crepitus, its tiresome to refute such blatantly obvious levels of wrong. I mean your basic statement began with saying that there was an industry nerf of 20% which is obviously idiotic.

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What's obviously idiotic is your in ability to communicate basic ideas without resorting to personal insults.

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I haven't made a single personal insult in the thread. I said his post was bad, he doesn't have a clue about what he is talking about and his idea of a 20% nerf to industry is idiotic.

I mean honestly, can anyone think of a single industry task or mission where you travel 100% of the time? Of course not.

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