Topic: General LAG?

I just keep experiencing some unusual "LAG".

When I just start a prodcution it has a 5 sec delay, or when I just open a Corporation Folder and put something in 5 sec (measured) delay (that used to be 1 sec or so.)

Its getting really annoying lately.

(stock in private storage also have delay, and moving in fodler also.)

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Re: General LAG?

Inda wrote:

I just keep experiencing some unusual "LAG".

When I just start a prodcution it has a 5 sec delay, or when I just open a Corporation Folder and put something in 5 sec (measured) delay (that used to be 1 sec or so.)

Its getting really annoying lately.

(stock in private storage also have delay, and moving in fodler also.)

Sounds like table lag. Do you have a lot of stuff in your personal items? You should try folders to lessen the amounts. I imagine the way they amend data is not built for the god knows how much stuff some people have in their personal storage - when the data sets get large you often need to either optimise of change the process, at least in SQL anyway.

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Re: General LAG?

Inda wrote:

I just keep experiencing some unusual "LAG".

When I just start a prodcution it has a 5 sec delay, or when I just open a Corporation Folder and put something in 5 sec (measured) delay (that used to be 1 sec or so.)

Its getting really annoying lately.

(stock in private storage also have delay, and moving in fodler also.)

Yes. Same for putting anything in RE or Prototyping or whatever.

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Re: General LAG?

Jita wrote:
Inda wrote:

I just keep experiencing some unusual "LAG".

When I just start a prodcution it has a 5 sec delay, or when I just open a Corporation Folder and put something in 5 sec (measured) delay (that used to be 1 sec or so.)

Its getting really annoying lately.

(stock in private storage also have delay, and moving in fodler also.)

Sounds like table lag. Do you have a lot of stuff in your personal items? You should try folders to lessen the amounts. I imagine the way they amend data is not built for the god knows how much stuff some people have in their personal storage - when the data sets get large you often need to either optimise of change the process, at least in SQL anyway.

This changed after "Server move" (what wasnt actually).

Energy to Earth!

18.01.2014. [12:57:58] <BeastmodeGuNs> after that i remembered all those warning about 1v1 you lol, and i found out why xD

5 (edited by Crepitus 2016-04-09 23:48:24)

Re: General LAG?

Inda wrote:
Jita wrote:
Inda wrote:

I just keep experiencing some unusual "LAG".

When I just start a prodcution it has a 5 sec delay, or when I just open a Corporation Folder and put something in 5 sec (measured) delay (that used to be 1 sec or so.)

Its getting really annoying lately.

(stock in private storage also have delay, and moving in fodler also.)

Sounds like table lag. Do you have a lot of stuff in your personal items? You should try folders to lessen the amounts. I imagine the way they amend data is not built for the god knows how much stuff some people have in their personal storage - when the data sets get large you often need to either optimise of change the process, at least in SQL anyway.

This changed after "Server move" (what wasnt actually).

Someone was talking on TS about this earlier today and said that they reduced the number of boxes they had propping the game up not sure where they heard/read that.

EDIT: I hadn't had any disconnections in a month until the "unmove". I've had all characters on given island disconnect or sometimes all of them across multiple islands.

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Re: General LAG?

Yes can confirm down our end of the world we have 5-8 sec lag internal shifting items. We have also shifting to using a gaming vpn service and this has been helpful, but that said I have had 2 disconnects recently. Blocker's game was unplayable as well - he will try the vpn service.

Re: General LAG?

i have this lag too

Just @ Game

Re: General LAG?

Looks like its time to find a new game tongue

True Pros make a Podcast to influence the Devs minds, 
The rest of you guys are Hacks tongue

PS. I got my Highways & stopped playing b4 they came in & have never used them! ...... Irony much ? tongue

Re: General LAG?

Crepitus wrote:

Someone was talking on TS about this earlier today and said that they reduced the number of boxes they had propping the game up not sure where they heard/read that.

This is stated by Dev Zoom here.

I can support the feeling of lagspike  and as servers didn't move just reduce number of servers it seems that server might now faster produce a spike, that was earlier usual to real high load consuming tasks. But as number of players did decrease this should be roughly similar to the time with far higher activity just beeing now far more often, than we were used to the last 12 month.

Re: General LAG?

yay, time to remove the most useless server-idle process: Gamma outposts.

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Re: General LAG?

This is *** unbearable trying to move stuff.

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Re: General LAG?

Some dumbest ISP at work!. Destination not reached in 35 hops. I have a bridge to sell AC/DEV Zoom.

Target Name: relay.perpetuum-online.com
         IP: 109.236.88.139
  Date/Time: 12/04/2016 19:38:31 to 12/04/2016 19:59:24

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
...
8   499 357  71,5  50 151  87  ae5.edge2.miami2.level3.net [4.68.111.121]
9   500 163  32,6 133 328 163  ae-120-3506.edge4.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.5]
10   500 161  32,2 133 381 164  ae-120-3506.edge4.London1.Level3.net [4.69.166.5]
11   500 159  31,8 141 359 177  interactive.edge4.London1.Level3.net [212.113.8.46]
12   500 161  32,2 139 382 176  [109.200.218.166]
13   500 207  41,4 147 388 184  [109.236.95.215]
14   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
15   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
16   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
17   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
18   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
19   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
20   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
21   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
22   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
23   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
24   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
25   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
26   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
27   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
28   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
29   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
30   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
31   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
32   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
33   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
34   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
35   499 499 100,0   0   0   0   [-]

Destination not reached in 35 hops

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Re: General LAG?

Please move the *** back to Hungary and stop *** around.

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14 (edited by Blocker 2016-04-13 07:16:45)

Re: General LAG?

[root@gateway ~]# traceroute  relay.perpetuum-online.com
traceroute to relay.perpetuum-online.com (109.236.88.139), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1  lns20.bne4.on.ii.net (150.101.180.143)  43.415 ms  45.063 ms  46.234 ms
2  xe-0-2-0.cr1.bne4.on.ii.net (150.101.33.134)  46.189 ms  48.153 ms  50.119 ms
3  ae6.br1.syd7.on.ii.net (150.101.33.76)  112.127 ms  112.092 ms  112.056 ms
4  te0-1-1-3.br2.sjc2.on.ii.net (150.101.33.149)  226.004 ms te0-2-0-3.br2.sjc2.on.ii.net (203.16.213.158)  227.676 ms te0-1-1-3.br2.sjc2.on.ii.net (150.101.33.149)  225.934 ms
5  tge1-3.sjo01-1.us.as5580.net (198.32.176.206)  230.867 ms  232.842 ms  232.808 ms
6  eth1-2.r2.chi1.us.as5580.net (78.152.44.198)  296.799 ms * *
7  eth7-2.edge1.nyc4.us.as5580.net (78.152.63.53)  281.245 ms  281.197 ms  283.128 ms
8  * * *
9  et-00-00-01.core01.lon10.uk.as5580.net (78.152.53.46)  386.261 ms  386.359 ms  386.284 ms
10  et-02-00-00.core02.lon01.uk.as5580.net (78.152.53.45)  386.211 ms  386.165 ms  386.121 ms
11  ae01.core02.ams02.nl.as5580.net (78.152.53.229)  366.031 ms  356.396 ms  359.321 ms
12  * eth2-5.edge1.ams5.nl.as5580.net (78.152.44.133)  420.193 ms *
13  eth2-4.edge1.rtd1.nl.as5580.net (78.152.44.32)  399.041 ms  392.913 ms  398.885 ms
14  78.152.32.175 (78.152.32.175)  627.838 ms * *
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
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30  * * *

Here's mine from AU. Not sure if the target address correct tho.. Happy to stand corrected on that. As you can see everything just stops at hop 14. Also notice the jump in response time from hop 13 to hop 14
[edit] Also be aware ICMP packets may be deliberately being dropped after hop 14. Whilst this is generally frowned upon, people do do it.   Ohh dear, I said do do.. tongue

Re: General LAG?

FFS....Reboot the server or something the database lag is crazy long.

Re: General LAG?

We'll try to do some database cleanup/optimization during the next patch downtime. (no ETA yet)

Re: General LAG?

Yay! Your alive!

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Re: General LAG?

Ville wrote:

Yay! Your alive!

I am, I'm just avoiding forum drama.

Re: General LAG?

Banning Jita and deleting RIP threads help.  *hint*hint*wink*wink*

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Re: General LAG?

Ville wrote:

Banning Jita and deleting RIP threads help.  *hint*hint*wink*wink*

I told him over a year ago he should ban the both of us along with some other faces and let the game's politics start again but sadly he didn't listen ...

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21 (edited by Annihilator 2016-04-20 19:41:15)

Re: General LAG?

DEV Zoom wrote:

We'll try to do some database cleanup/optimization during the next patch downtime. (no ETA yet)

you finally delete 200 dead chat channels?

i mean, they will self-delete when no agent is in them anymore
so all you need to do for that is, to simple run a script that removes every agents from every channel, and then places them back into the default General chat + help + squad + corp

how hard can that be??

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Re: General LAG?

Annihilator wrote:
DEV Zoom wrote:

We'll try to do some database cleanup/optimization during the next patch downtime. (no ETA yet)

you finally delete 200 dead chat channels?

i mean, they will self-delete when no agent is in them anymore
so all you need to do for that is, to simple run a script that removes every agents from every channel, and then places them back into the default General chat + help + squad + corp

how hard can that be??

And you wonder why you got ignored on skype.

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Re: General LAG?

its not that a similar scrip had been used in the past already.
so it should be within their least-effort-coding priority.

with only 30 active player there isn't much room for complaints from players, except for some that only look for reasons to complain...

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Re: General LAG?

Annihilator wrote:

its not that a similar scrip had been used in the past already.
so it should be within their least-effort-coding priority.

with only 30 active player there isn't much room for complaints from players, except for some that only look for reasons to complain...

And spoken without a shred of irony. EL OH EL.

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Re: General LAG?

Disconnects are becoming more prevalent

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