Re: LAGS!

no
first, the client cannot be closed without terminating the process.
and then you get exactly the same again.

tried with two accounts alternating - at one point, i could get anni back into the game, while caboose still was not able to log in.

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Phantomburn wrote:
DEV Zoom wrote:

Yeah, that wasn't the reason "people" got banned, and you know it.

Oh yeah I'm sorry.  They got banned because they showed people that players couldn't connect or were experiencing lag and the development team dismissed as 5 dudes?  I forgot anyone who disagrees with the holier than thou gets banned.

If that was true then all of the people in the lag topics would have been banned. The ban had nothing to do with it, more like with that "terrorist" stupidity that I didn't even understand what it was about.

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No. sad

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Forum LAGS TOO! IT'S INTERNET!

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DEV Zoom wrote:
Phantomburn wrote:
DEV Zoom wrote:

Yeah, that wasn't the reason "people" got banned, and you know it.

Oh yeah I'm sorry.  They got banned because they showed people that players couldn't connect or were experiencing lag and the development team dismissed as 5 dudes?  I forgot anyone who disagrees with the holier than thou gets banned.

If that was true then all of the people in the lag topics would have been banned. The ban had nothing to do with it, more like with that "terrorist" stupidity that I didn't even understand what it was about.

And you wonder why people call you arrogant.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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Yeah, I do actually. You probably think that the spamming and "humorous" trolling benefits the game and the community too.

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About as much as your team recycling the same content for two years.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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Sad fact is this team has done more to hurt the community than ANY trolling could do.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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ah, can we get rid of the trash an concentrate on what matters.

Zoom - what can we do to find then faulty process at work?
TBH, its a very high chance that the reason is somewhere within the the server code, not the providers. We had simmilar  lag events even when the server(s) have been located all around hungary, just everyone blamed the server location.

now the server is hosted by someone experienced, in a location with a better connection, and the issues are still there.

*cycnism* just free the database from unused chat channels, countless never activated trail accounts, and multi-billion unused minerals in Ville's storages after deleting his account for spamming all topics with his personal agenda....
fuuu

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Phantomburn wrote:

Sad fact is this team has done more to hurt the community than ANY trolling could do.

Ville once again showing that he will do anything, say anything or be anything just to be an idiot.

Proverbs 23:20-21 warns us, “Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."

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wtf.. .forum laggs again and can't login (((

137 (edited by Race Drones 2014-12-18 19:32:40)

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Chemist wrote:

Forum LAGS TOO! IT'S INTERNET!

I can see a routing loop (hop loop) in each IP:

95.172.88.206        on the lan from 95.172.78.66 border1.tg8-1-bbnet2.ams004.pnap.net

and

172.231.161.117    0.te3-1-tsr1.ams2.nl.voxel.net

Ignorance is curable, Stupidity is not.
The "Planet of the Apes" is not science fiction, is a daily reality.
All is in "The Matrix".
See Beyond the Obvious.

Re: LAGS!

So there is a new tab in the ingame profiler (open console and enter "openprofiler").

This shows the number and size of all the packets your client receives over time.

command=packet name
count=number of packets received so far
total=summed size of the received packets in bytes
avg=average size of the packets in bytes

When you experience lag, please check this and look for any unusually large numbers, and note the name of that packet. Sorting based on count or total is recommended.

What counts as unusual? Here are my statistics when I was shooting some NPCs on gamma (without noticing any lag): http://pbrd.co/1GvKoIL

Two things to note:
ZCMD 4 is robot movement (player or NPC), these are very small packets, but you get a lot of them.
ZCMD 46 is layer update (terrain, plants, blocks, etc.), over time this generates the largest traffic in size.

This is only testing a theory of players possibly getting hammered by unusual server packets, causing lag. If it's not the cause then we're still clueless, or it's not something with our servers.

139 (edited by Chemist 2014-12-18 19:53:16)

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I'd check, but I can not connect to the server. sad
I do not know what happened, but first I noticed some lag from ~10 November. Previously, this was not.

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whats still missing, is a basic packetloss display. 

or at login, can connect to server, but fails to recieve data.

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141 (edited by Khetar 2014-12-18 22:28:05)

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Have been downloading the 2.42mb "hotfix" for the past 10 minutes. Even with my end-of-the-world connection it should take less than 2 minutes. PLEASE FIX, I GOT 3 CLIENTS TO GO

EDIT: Paused on 1.45mb for 30 minutes, restarting..

EDIT 2: Error on my side, I apologize a lot, patching is fine now, the lag is still horrible!

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had lots of lag in chat, even without undocking.
will try later again.

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How to recreate Broccoli LAG.

Go to test server (supposedly less server load).
undock with DPS combat bot of choice.
find patch of broccoli
target piece of broccoli in center of patch.
start shooting and then circle strafe
watch ingame lag meter increase by about 10x to 20x normal (pingplotter still looks normal)
(400-450 normal ingame - 4000-11000 broccoli factor)
watch position lag/jump.
watch shots start shooting all over the place trying to catch up.
stop and wait a few seconds for it to catch up and start shooting at the right place.
do this with someone else at the same time and watch them teleport/jump around as well.

The point is, I get ingame LAG while 3rd party tools show normal packet loss and ping/response times.

144 (edited by Inda 2014-12-19 21:32:47)

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Sadly too much times happening.

Seems to me "RELAY" isnt changing much with lag or without.

Energy to Earth!

18.01.2014. [12:57:58] <BeastmodeGuNs> after that i remembered all those warning about 1v1 you lol, and i found out why xD

145 (edited by Altera 2014-12-20 22:05:07)

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"connecting to the dataserver..." for 30 minutes.  Multiple clients, multiple reboots. nothing fixes it.  Rest of the internet works fine.

Please fix your ****


wireshark gets a ton of "TCP Out-Of-Order" when I launch and it sits at the connecting to the dataserver.

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Any update?  Increase spikes when killing trees.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

147 (edited by Luvliner 2014-12-26 22:04:32)

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There is something wrong in your developer heads:

0. play for 15-20 mins, 200-400 ms, then lag n/a, then lag 111348 ms, then 90k-5k-n/a-87k-100500k-n/a-etc, then SYSTEMHALT (sic!), ok... restarting, strt game, connect, 5k, enter to terminal, open robot - empty, open any with items - empty, waiting for few mins - DISCONNECT... ок. Connect again...
1. http://pbrd.co/1H2W9H2
2. http://pbrd.co/1H2WqcZ
3. http://pbrd.co/1H2WvNY

I have some questions guys. How I will to play? Why should I buy anything for $ that play here since I wrote above? No funny, no money. Is this good for your business? Here are some looks so my behavior when I try to play your game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S28H48u4qw4

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Luvliner wrote:

There is something wrong in your developer heads:

1. http://pbrd.co/1H2W9H2
2. http://pbrd.co/1H2WqcZ
3. http://pbrd.co/1H2WvNY

Yes and it's called the Internet, I wonder why nothing of that sort happens to me.

RIP PERPETUUM

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Celebro wrote:
Luvliner wrote:

There is something wrong in your developer heads:

1. http://pbrd.co/1H2W9H2
2. http://pbrd.co/1H2WqcZ
3. http://pbrd.co/1H2WvNY

Yes and it's called the Internet, I wonder why nothing of that sort happens to me.

with *** words: for that you need to log in big_smile

no, for real, it happens randomly, on no specific time or event that i could track down.
I seldomly have it that i cannot log in at all, but i stop playing when my ping suddenly goes up from average 36 to suddenly 150 (since its "average" it means its its unplayable)

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We're still investigating, it seems that only players with specific internet providers are affected. (For example t-online here in Hungary.)