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a monkey could make t2 protos
If you can only do that with protos then that's a drawback right there in my book.
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This is the kind of 'feedback' that really does not help either. I Appreciate that Ville and other is explaining issues now in detail to Zoom.
This is why the game needs demob immune bots. (151km/h, same range on Vaga MK2)
Imagine, it was the same pre-patch with 800+ demob, but people misjudged it as ~balance~. 
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This is the kind of 'feedback' that really does not help either. I Appreciate that Ville and other is explaining issues now in detail to Zoom.
I see his point though. When have the devs ever admitted something was wrong and removed it in all these years? At best they nerf it in to insignificance. They seem unable to admit failure and do anything about it.
This is why the game needs demob immune bots. Imagine, it was the same pre-patch with 800+ demob.
Lol one demob at 500+ your gonna run in to trees and *** and lose him not to mention at 500+ if i see you locking me I know whats up and will avoid you.
Considering you were one of the few people that ran exclusive ewars I thought you would be harder on the devs burial.
It's "short" demob, doesn't need LOS or anything. Just zap-zap. It's faster than any of the run-of-the-mill assaults.
Burial as I previously pointed out:
A demob at 530M is used for "Heavy Mech" engagements.
It's also used to kite groups during roams. Helps fleeing fleets.
Demob immune bots SHOULD NOT be tanky. In fact it should be as fragile as possible because its a get in ghank and get out.
Besides you can't lock and follow with RSAs. And good luck not getting your RSA partner stuck.
It has the surface size of a mech and dps of a T4 Yagel MK2. I'd say it's already a pretty deep trade-off without making it fragile like a twig. Also, I've apparently missed the Honor Book where it mentions that long range s-demob Zeniths are only used in fleets.
By the way, I support giving demob resistance to all of the lights and assaults to compensate for the mandatory lightweight frame.
There's not an honor book, it's the role it "WAS" designed for. Regardless I'm done giving feedback, its not listened too anyways as Jita already pointed out.
There's not an honor book, it's the role it "WAS" designed for. Regardless I'm done giving feedback, its not listened too anyways as Jita already pointed out.
Don't say things you don't really mean... 
WHAT ARE STACKING PENALTIES?!?!?!?!?!?!
If you can only do that with protos then that's a drawback right there in my book.
You know nothing
It has the surface size of a mech and dps of a T4 Yagel MK2. I'd say it's already a pretty deep trade-off without making it fragile like a twig. Also, I've apparently missed the Honor Book where it mentions that long range s-demob Zeniths are only used in fleets.
By the way, I support giving demob resistance to all of the lights and assaults to compensate for the mandatory lightweight frame.
Dev Zoom jr here...
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